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Old 11-27-2005, 07:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I assume you mean clawhammer and venice core? Well for starters the venice has the 90 micrometer process type while the clawhammer has a 130 micrometer process type if I remember correctly. Venice uses s939 clawhammer uses s754. Venice has 512 L2 cache while clawhammer has 1 mb. The venice also has an sse3 instruction set.

edit: O the venice core is better
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I assume you mean clawhammer and venice core? Well for starters the venice has the 90 micrometer process type while the clawhammer has a 130 micrometer process type if I remember correctly. Venice uses s939 clawhammer uses s754. Venice has 512 L2 cache while clawhammer has 1 mb. The venice also has an sse3 instruction set.

edit: O the venice core is better
the non-venice 3200+ also comes in S939 configuration and has 512 L2 cache as well. It also boasts a 2000Mhz FSB while the Venice core only has a 1000Mhz FSB

does that change ur opinion?
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Venice's are still better. 754's can't run dual channel and it's old technology.

edit: oops well the venices overclock better and they don'y come with a 2000 htt/fsb. It's 1000.
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Venice's are still better. 754's can't run dual channel and it's old technology.

edit: oops well the venices overclock better and they don'y come with a 2000 htt/fsb. It's 1000.
why are you still talking about the 754's? The 3200+ comes in 939 as well, like I stated above. And it can run dual core, and it has double the FSB of the Venice core.

But the Venice core is cheaper, hmm.
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Since you guys are on the topic... which is better? The venice or the san diego?
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What do you mean 2000mhz. Show me where you see 2000 mhz fsb.
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I don't remember exactly how it works, but sometimes they advertise it as 1000Mhz, and sometimes they advertise it as 2000Mhz. There's a multiplier in there that they decide to use sometimes when they advertise it. Both processors have the same FSB though. Someone else can deal with the specifics, but I think it works something like that.

The Venices also require less voltage, thus producing less heat.
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I'm going with the Venice core because

it's cheaper
has SSE3 instruction sets
has an improved memory controller
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Oh yeah, San Diego>Venice
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