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Old 02-17-2010, 01:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I am in the process of ordering a new rig from newegg specifically for gaming. After a week of research I've come up with two options (minor tweaks may be made) and would like a general consensus on which setup will perform better based on :

1. Gaming Capabilities
2. Value
3. Reliability

PLEASE include the reason why you choose one over the other! If you have any recommendations for part swaps just say which ones. THANKS!

-----Intel Based-----
*CPU - i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66 GHz
*Motherboard - MSI P55-GD65 LGA 1156 Intel P55
*RAM - Corsair XMS3 2 x 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 (PC3 12800)
*GPU - EVGA 512-P3-1154-TR GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
*Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
*PSU - 1 Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V
*Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
*Monitor - Acer X223WDbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD

Total - $947

-----AMD Based-----

*CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3
*MotherBoard - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD
*RAM - Corsair XMS3 2 x 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 (PC3 12800)
*GPU - SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
*Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
*PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V
*Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
*Monitor - Acer X223WDbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD

Total - $850
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The Intel cpu there is better than the X4 955, even at stock speeds.

However, for a gaming pc you'll want more than a GTS 250. You can get a 4870 for about the same price, and it's a much better card.

As to the choice between the two rigs (after the gfx change for the intel rig), I'd personally go with the Intel build. After overclocking both cpu's, the i5 750 pulls even further ahead.
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Alright.

I'm curious...

The 4870 you recommend and the 5770 I have listed in the AMD setup happen to be the exact same price.

It's seem the 5770 is clocked higher (850core) and has Direct x 11 BUT has 128 MB memory Interface...

The 4870 is clocked lower (750core) and has Direct x 10.1 BUT has 256 MB memory Interface...

It also seems that the 4870 has been out longer which means better driver support...

...of these two choices which do you consider superior?
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well the 5770 preforms slightly less well than the 4870, but it's got a lot more features (e.g. dx11). That'll be important in the future when more dx11 games start being released.

For that reason I'd go with the 5770 I guess.
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I would save $100 and pick the AMD.
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*CPU - AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3
*MotherBoard - ASUS M4A77TD AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD
*RAM - Corsair XMS3 2 x 2 GB DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 (PC3 12800)
*GPU - SAPPHIRE 100283L Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
*Hard Drive - Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5
*PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W Continuous Power ATX12V
*Case - Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower
*Monitor - Acer X223WDbd Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD
I would pick the AMD rig.
Things I would change...
I'd probably down the PSU to an Antec Neo 520w or a OCZ ModXStream 500w to save more money.
I'd change the case to a Rosewill Blackbone. (Saving more money)

I'd ditch the Acer monitor for the 22" AOC monitor with 1920x1080 resolution.
Newegg.com - AOC 2236vw Glossy Black 22" 5ms Widescreen LCD Monitor 60000:1 - LCD Monitors

I'd buy a Samsung Spinpoint F3 500Gb HDD from Newegg, Amazon, ZipZoomFly, or Ewiz.
Whichever has it in stock, it will only cost from $50-55 with free shipping and waaaaay outperform any Western Digital drive.


Also, if you want to consider crossfiring two 5770's in the future. (They scale 80-90% in most cases) Pick up a 790X motherboard instead of the 770.

Also, reason I'd pick the AMD rig over the Intel rig?
Cheaper, similar performance.... AND!

Thuban.
Phenom II X6 processors will be able to just slap right into AM3 motherboards. (Probably with just a simple BIOS update, maybe you won't even need that.)
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I'd buy a Samsung Spinpoint F3 500Gb HDD from Newegg, Amazon, ZipZoomFly, or Ewiz.
Whichever has it in stock, it will only cost from $50-55 with free shipping and waaaaay outperform any Western Digital drive.
How does the Spinpoint stack up to the WD Blacks? The Black line are insanely fast, right at Raptor speed.
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How does the Spinpoint stack up to the WD Blacks? The Black line are insanely fast, right at Raptor speed.
Charts, benchmarks 2009 3.5? Desktop Hard Drive Charts, IOMeter 2006.07.27

Charts, benchmarks 2009 3.5? Desktop Hard Drive Charts, IOMeter 2006.07.27

The Samsung Spinpoint F3 is the new ****** on the block in HDD performance.
In average read/write times, it dusts the Caviar Blacks.

In many benches it even leaves the great velociraptor standing in the dust.

Samsung must have put steroids in the F3 series.

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Default Re: Which is BEST?

although the i5 750 is faster than the x4 955, if gaming is your priority then I agree with kmote, save the extra money and go with the amd build.

for gaming the amd would be better anyway because a 5770 > gts 250.

but I also agree with orihS Shiro, the antec 650w is a bit much and you could save some with a different psu.
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