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Old 08-20-2007, 04:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is it true that a comparable Intel Duel core CPU will outdo AMD's x2? Someone told me that and before I vuild my new system I figured I would check it out.

Does anyone know, are they about the same price? Thanks.
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An X2 6000+ is comparable to an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600. It will out do in most situations, but not in all, and not by a huge amount.
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Yeah you can compare it, but you have to list a specific Dual* Core. E6600/E6750/E6850 can own any AMD X2 any day in performance, but then the downside is the price the E6600/E6750/E6850 is at. Intel - Performance, AMD - Price Tag. AMD's should especially be made in budget computers since I know a lot of people would go for Intel if they have the money.
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6000+ performs on par with E6550/E6600 at stock speeds

But all C2D processors can overclock much better than 6000+, and consume much less power.
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after you over clock, your gonna have a ton of increase of power any proccesor.

new 6400+ performs higher than e6750 but less than the 6850. stock.
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Default Re: AMD 64 X2 6000 Vs. Intel duel core

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6000+ performs on par with E6550/E6600 at stock speeds

But all C2D processors can overclock much better than 6000+, and consume much less power.
including the memory controller?
and are you looking strictly at TDP's? because Intel doesn't rate their CPU's at maximum power consumption.

Yes, C2D's can overclock better. but the scale isn't as big as people make it out to be.
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after you over clock, your gonna have a ton of increase of power any proccesor.
true that. Not many people take notice of this.

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new 6400+ performs higher than e6750 but less than the 6850. stock.
AMD ADO5000DSWOF AMD Athlon 64 X2 Processor 6400+ Black Edition 125 AM2 2MB 3200 - Monstronix, Inc.

costs $130, while E6750 costs about $200
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including the memory controller?
and are you looking strictly at TDP's? because Intel doesn't rate their CPU's at maximum power consumption.
X-bit labs - Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850: Four Cores at Three Gigahertz (page 12)
According to this website 6000+ consume more power than QX6850 which have 130W TPD compared to 6000+ which have 125W

So, even if you include memory controller, the C2D will still consume much less power

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after you over clock, your gonna have a ton of increase of power any proccesor.

new 6400+ performs higher than e6750 but less than the 6850. stock.

No it doesn't perform better than E6750

athlon 64 x2 6400+ review and benchmark
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6400+ performs better in 3dmark, but who cares ?!! Would you buy a 6400+ just to get a high score in 3dmark ??!!

In gaming E6750 is about 10% faster

And in real world application like encoding, photoshop, office applications etc, E6750 was better most of the time
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costs $130, while E6750 costs about $200
6400+ was priced at $239 by AMD, so I don't know how the website you posted is selling it at $130

I don't think it will be $130 at newegg
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Not you clearly.
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In gaming E6750 is about 10% faster
but is much more than 10% more expensive.
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And in real world application like encoding, photoshop etc, E6750 was better most of the time
but not all the time, and not by much.
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6400+ was priced at $239 by AMD, so I don't know how the website you posted is selling it at $130
and yet it is.
amd athlon 64 x2 6400+ - Google Product Search
core 2 duo e6750 - Google Product Search
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I don't think it will be $130 at newegg
it isn't on newegg.
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X-bit labs - Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850: Four Cores at Three Gigahertz (page 12)
According to this website 6000+ consume more power than QX6850 which have 130W TPD compared to 6000+ which have 125W

So, even if you include memory controller, the C2D will still consume much less power
I've seen reviews that have different results.
Intel's Core 2 Duo E6750 processor - The Tech Report - Page 13

yes, 6000+ consumes more power, but not much more. Especially on idle, the difference is extremely small.
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but Intel TDP stands for Typical Design power (average) instead of maximum like AMD.

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However, the methods Intel and AMD use yo express power consumption are not comparable, because AMD calls for Maximum TDP, while Intel declares Typical TDP.
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