Agp Or Pci? - Page 3 - Techist - Tech Forum

Go Back   Techist - Tech Forum > Computer Hardware > System Upgrades
Click Here to Login
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
 
Old 03-09-2006, 10:21 PM   #21 (permalink)
Wizard Techie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,453
Send a message via AIM to FghtinIrshNvrDi Send a message via Yahoo to FghtinIrshNvrDi
Default

Sounds to me like you do not have any PCIe slots. You'll probably need to stick with a PCI video card. The easiest to find PCI interface card is probably the eVGA FX5500. The best one that is a little harder to find is the eVGA 6200 PCI.

Remember, PCI and PCI Express are different things.

Ryan
__________________

__________________

<b>I'm an unhyphenated American.</b>
System Specs:
Intel Q6600 @ 3200 1.4v
Abit IP35 Pro "The Snake"
2x2gb A-Data @ 800
Diamond HD 3870 512mb


Great FORD TRUCK resource: http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com
FghtinIrshNvrDi is offline  
Old 03-10-2006, 06:43 AM   #22 (permalink)
Monster Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,533
Default

FghtinIrshNvrDi , did you read my previous reply? i backed up my claims with facts unlike you. , anyway he alredy got his answer. this is really getting ridicules
__________________

jeremy is offline  
Old 03-10-2006, 10:10 AM   #23 (permalink)
Wizard Techie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,453
Send a message via AIM to FghtinIrshNvrDi Send a message via Yahoo to FghtinIrshNvrDi
Default

Well I didn't see it. Maybe if we used punctuation and complete sentances I could make some sense of it. I still am in serious doubt.

Ryan
__________________

<b>I'm an unhyphenated American.</b>
System Specs:
Intel Q6600 @ 3200 1.4v
Abit IP35 Pro "The Snake"
2x2gb A-Data @ 800
Diamond HD 3870 512mb


Great FORD TRUCK resource: http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com
FghtinIrshNvrDi is offline  
Old 03-11-2006, 04:14 AM   #24 (permalink)
Junior Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 57
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by jeremy
FghtinIrshNvrDi , did you read my previous reply? i backed up my claims with facts unlike you. , anyway he alredy got his answer. this is really getting ridicules
I like ridiculous.
Atrusthegod is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 07:43 PM   #25 (permalink)
Newb Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 29
Default

Hmmm im gonna buy this video card its a pci-e and is an nvidia..
http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Geforce-6...QQcmdZViewItem
EsTeBaNo is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 07:56 PM   #26 (permalink)
Wizard Techie
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,453
Send a message via AIM to FghtinIrshNvrDi Send a message via Yahoo to FghtinIrshNvrDi
Default

I'm still wondering what your motherboard is... I hate to see you spend money on a card that doesn't fit in your board.

Ryan
__________________

<b>I'm an unhyphenated American.</b>
System Specs:
Intel Q6600 @ 3200 1.4v
Abit IP35 Pro "The Snake"
2x2gb A-Data @ 800
Diamond HD 3870 512mb


Great FORD TRUCK resource: http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com
FghtinIrshNvrDi is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:16 PM   #27 (permalink)
Newb Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 29
Default

Ok i have sis Software sandra lite... Its a program that gives you info on all the things on your pc... and this is what i got on the mainboard information:
SiSoftware Sandra

System
Manufacturer : HP Pavilion 061
Model : PW708AA-ABM W5040LA
Version : 0qy1211RE101GOLD200
Serial Number : MXK5300MRN LA520
ID : 87FAD174-11D9FDE0-056B2AAE-A4274D28

System Chassis
Manufacturer : Chassis Manufacture
Type : Desktop
Can be locked : No
Version : Chassis Version
Serial Number : Chassis Serial Number
Asset Tag : Asset-1234567890
Boot-up State : Safe
Power State : Safe
Thermal State : Safe
Security State : External Interface Locked-out

Mainboard
Manufacturer : ASUSTeK Computer INC.
MP Support : 1 Processor(s)
MPS Version : 1.40
Model : Goldfish2
Version : 1.xx
Serial Number : X312345678
System BIOS : 63-0321-000000-00101111-042905-I915

On-board Devices
Ethernet Adapter : Ethernet Adapter (Enabled)
Sound Adapter : Sound Adapter (Enabled)
Video Adapter : Video Adapter (Enabled)

System Memory Controller
Location : Mainboard
Error Correction Capability : None
Number of Memory Slots : 4
Maximum Installable Memory : 4GB
BANK1 - DIMM1 : Manufacturer0 PartNum0 SerNum0 AssetTagNum0 DIMM Synchronous DDR-SDRAM 256MB/64
BANK2 - DIMM2 : Empty
BANK3 - DIMM3 : Manufacturer2 PartNum2 SerNum2 AssetTagNum2 DIMM Synchronous DDR-SDRAM 256MB/64
BANK4 - DIMM4 : Empty

Chipset 1
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82915G/GV/GL/P/PL/GL Grantsdale Host Bridge/DRAM Controller
Bus(es) : ISA X-Bus PCI PCIe IMB USB FireWire/1394 i2c/SMBus
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Maximum FSB Speed / Max Memory Speed : 4x 200MHz / 1x 266MHz
Width : 64-bit
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)

Logical/Chipset 1 Memory Banks
Width : 64-bit
Performance Acceleration Technology : No
Power Save Mode : No
Fixed Hole Present : No

APIC 1
Version : 2.00
Multiplier : 1/2x
Maximum Interrupts : 24
IRQ Handler Engaged : Yes
Enhanced Support : Yes

Memory Module 1
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M3 68L3223FTN-CCC
Serial Number : F4030780
Type : 256MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8
Version : 1.0
Date of Manufacture : Sábado, 08 de Octubre de 2005
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7

Memory Module 2
Manufacturer : Samsung
Model : M3 68L3223FTN-CCC
Serial Number : F4050782
Type : 256MB DDR-SDRAM
Technology : 8x(32Mx8)
Speed : PC3200U 3.0-3-3-8
Version : 1.0
Date of Manufacture : Sábado, 08 de Octubre de 2005
Set Timing @ 200MHz : 3.0-3-3-8
Set Timing @ 167MHz : 2.5-3-3-7

PCI Bus(es) on Hub 1
Version : 2.30
Number of Bridges : 2
PCI Bus 0 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 1 : PCIe (3/1x PCIClk)
PCI Bus 2 : PCI (1/1x PCIClk)
Number of PCIe Lanes : 1

LPC Hub Controller 1
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB/FR ICH6/ICH6R LPC Interface Bridge
ACPI Power Management Enabled : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Support : Yes
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : No
Delayed Transaction Enabled : Yes

LPC Hub Controller 2
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 SMBus Controller

LPC Legacy Controller 1
Type : SMSC LPC v1
Version : 77.01
Number of Enabled Devices : 3

USB Controller 1
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 1
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 2
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 2
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 3
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 3
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 4
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 USB UHCI Controller 4
Version : 1.10
Interface : UHCI
Channels : 2
Speed : 48MHz
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps)
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

USB Controller 5
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company 82801FB ICH6 USB 2.0 EHCI Controller
Version : 2.00
Specification : 1.00
Interface : EHCI
Channels : 8
Companion Controllers : 4
Supported Speed(s) : Low (1.5Mbps) Full (12Mbps) High (480Mbps)
Addressing Support : 64-bit
Legacy Emulation Enabled : No

FireWire/1394 Controller 1
Model : Hewlett-Packard Company VT6306 VIA Fire II IEEE-1394 OHCI Link Layer Controller
Version : 1.00
Interface : OHCI
Enhanced Support : No
Channels : 64
Speed : 400MHz

System SMBus Controller 1
Model : Intel 801xx/63xx SMBus
Version : 0.03
Specification : 2.00
Advanced TCO Mode Enabled : Yes
Slave Device Enabled : Yes
PEC Support : Yes
Speed : 100kHz

Expansion Slot(s)
PCIEX16 : PCIe 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available
PCI1 (1h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available
PCI2 (2h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Used (Hewlett-Packard Company 82915G/GV/GL, 82910GL Integrated Graphics Device)
PCI3/PCIEX1 (3h) : PCI 32-bit +3.3V Shared PME Half-Length Available

Port Connector
PS2Mouse : Mouse - None / PS/2
Keyboard : Keyboard - None / PS/2
USB1 : USB - None / USB
USB2 : USB - None / USB
USB3 : USB - None / USB
USB4 : USB - None / USB
USB5 : USB - None / USB
USB6 : USB - None / USB
AUX : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
CD : Audio - CD-ROM Sound Input / None
IDE : None - ATA / None
FLOPPY : None - Floppy Disk / None
CPU_FAN : None - None / None
SYS_FAN : None - None / None
ATXPWR : None - None / None
FP_AUDIO : None - None / None

Performance Tips
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2511 : Some memory slots are free so the memory can be easily upgraded.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
EsTeBaNo is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:19 PM   #28 (permalink)
Newb Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 29
Default

And this on cpu and bios Information:
SiSoftware Sandra

Processor
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Speed : 2.80GHz
Performance Rating : PR3725 (estimated)
Cores per Processor : 1 Unit(s)
Threads per Core : 2 Unit(s)
Package : FC LGA775
Rated Speed/FSB : 2800MHz / 4x 200MHz
Multiplier : 14/1x
Minimum/Maximum Multiplier : 0/1x / 14/1x
Generation : G8
Name : P4P-T/J (Prescott) Pentium 4E 90nm 2.8-3.8GHz 1.25-1.40V
Revision/Stepping : 4 / 1 (0)
Stepping Mask : E0
Microcode : MU0F4112
Core Voltage Rating : 1.400V
Maximum Physical / Virtual Addressing : 36-bit / 32-bit
Native Page Size : 4kB

Co-Processor (FPU)
Type : Built-in
Revision/Stepping : 4 / 1 (0)

Processor Cache(s)
Internal Data Cache : 16kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 threads sharing
Internal Trace Cache : 12kB Synchronous, Write-Thru, 8-way set, 64 byte line size
L2 On-board Cache : 1MB ECC Synchronous, ATC, 8-way set, 64 byte line size, 2 lines per sector, 2 threads sharing
L2 Cache Multiplier : 1/1x (2801MHz)

Upgradeability
Socket/Slot : CPU 1
Upgrade Interface : Other
Supported Speed(s) : 3.80GHz+

Features
FPU - Co-Processor Built-in : Yes
VME - Virtual Mode Extensions : Yes
DE - Debugging Extension : Yes
PSE - Page Size Extension : Yes
TSC - Time Stamp Counter : Yes
MSR - Model Specific Registers : Yes
PAE - Physical Address Extension : Yes
MCE - Machine Check Exception : Yes
CX8 - Compare & Exchange 8-bytes Instruction : Yes
APIC - Local APIC Built-in : Yes
SEP - Fast System Call : Yes
MTRR - Memory Type Range Registers : Yes
PGE - Page Global Enable : Yes
MCA - Machine Check Architecture : Yes
PAT - Page Attribute Table : Yes
PSE36 - 36-bit Page Size Extension : Yes
PSN - Unique Serial Number : No
CLF - Cache Line Flush Support : Yes
DS - Debug Trace & EMON Store : Yes
ACPI - Software Clock Control : Yes
(W)MMX Technology : Yes
FXSR - Fast Float Save & Restore : Yes
SSE Technology : Yes
SSE2 Technology : Yes
SS - Self Snoop : Yes
HTT - Hyper-Threading Technology : Yes
TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
PBE - Pending Break Enable : Yes
IA64 Technology : No
SSE3 Technology : Yes
MON - Monitor/MWait : Yes
DSCPL - CPL qualified Debug Store : Yes
VMX - Virtual Machine eXtensions : No
EST - Enhanced SpeedStep Technology : No
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
SSE4 Technology : No
CID - Context ID : Yes
CX16 - Compare & Exchange 16-bytes Instruction : No
xTPR - Send Task Priority Messages : Yes
DAZ - Denormals Are Zero : Yes

Extended Features
EMMX - Extended MMX Technology : No
3DNow! Technology : No
Extended 3DNow! Technology : No
XD/NX - No-execute Page Protection : Yes
AMD64/EM64T Technology : No

Advanced Settings
Data Error Checking : No
Fast Strings : Yes
x86 FPU Compatibility Mode : No
Prefetch Queue : Yes
Branch Trace Storage : Yes
Data Cache Active Mode : Yes
IO Queue Depth : 12 request(s)
TM - Thermal Monitor : Yes
TM2 - Thermal Monitor 2 : No
Specific Platform Requirements : No
Control Temperature : 68.0°C / 154.4°F

MP Settings
Maximum Supported Configuration : 2-way
Bootstrap CPU : Yes
Global APIC Engaged : Yes
APIC ID : 0
APIC Cluster ID : 0
Arbitration ID : 0

Machine Check Architecture Settings
Number of Reporting Banks : 4 bank(s)
Extended Machine Check Support : Yes
Number of Extended Reporting Banks : 12 bank(s)

Variable Range MTRR Settings
MTRR 0 : 00000000-1FFFFFFF (0MB-512MB) WB
MTRR 1 : 1F800000-1FFFFFFF (504MB-512MB) UC

Fixed Range MTRR Settings
MTRR 0 Range 0 : 00000000-0000FFFF (0kB-64kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 1 : 00010000-0001FFFF (64kB-128kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 2 : 00020000-0002FFFF (128kB-192kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 3 : 00030000-0003FFFF (192kB-256kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 4 : 00040000-0004FFFF (256kB-320kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 5 : 00050000-0005FFFF (320kB-384kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 6 : 00060000-0006FFFF (384kB-448kB) WB
MTRR 0 Range 7 : 00070000-0007FFFF (448kB-512kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 0 : 00080000-00083FFF (512kB-528kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 1 : 00084000-00087FFF (528kB-544kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 2 : 00088000-0008BFFF (544kB-560kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 3 : 0008C000-0008FFFF (560kB-576kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 4 : 00090000-00093FFF (576kB-592kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 5 : 00094000-00097FFF (592kB-608kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 6 : 00098000-0009BFFF (608kB-624kB) WB
MTRR 1 Range 7 : 0009C000-0009FFFF (624kB-640kB) WB
MTRR 2 Range 0 : 000A0000-000A3FFF (640kB-656kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 1 : 000A4000-000A7FFF (656kB-672kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 2 : 000A8000-000ABFFF (672kB-688kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 3 : 000AC000-000AFFFF (688kB-704kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 4 : 000B0000-000B3FFF (704kB-720kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 5 : 000B4000-000B7FFF (720kB-736kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 6 : 000B8000-000BBFFF (736kB-752kB) UC
MTRR 2 Range 7 : 000BC000-000BFFFF (752kB-768kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 0 : 000C0000-000C0FFF (768kB-772kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 1 : 000C1000-000C1FFF (772kB-776kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 2 : 000C2000-000C2FFF (776kB-780kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 3 : 000C3000-000C3FFF (780kB-784kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 4 : 000C4000-000C4FFF (784kB-788kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 5 : 000C5000-000C5FFF (788kB-792kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 6 : 000C6000-000C6FFF (792kB-796kB) UC
MTRR 3 Range 7 : 000C7000-000C7FFF (796kB-800kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 0 : 000C8000-000C8FFF (800kB-804kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 1 : 000C9000-000C9FFF (804kB-808kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 2 : 000CA000-000CAFFF (808kB-812kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 3 : 000CB000-000CBFFF (812kB-816kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 4 : 000CC000-000CCFFF (816kB-820kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 5 : 000CD000-000CDFFF (820kB-824kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 6 : 000CE000-000CEFFF (824kB-828kB) UC
MTRR 4 Range 7 : 000CF000-000CFFFF (828kB-832kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 0 : 000D0000-000D0FFF (832kB-836kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 1 : 000D1000-000D1FFF (836kB-840kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 2 : 000D2000-000D2FFF (840kB-844kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 3 : 000D3000-000D3FFF (844kB-848kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 4 : 000D4000-000D4FFF (848kB-852kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 5 : 000D5000-000D5FFF (852kB-856kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 6 : 000D6000-000D6FFF (856kB-860kB) UC
MTRR 5 Range 7 : 000D7000-000D7FFF (860kB-864kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 0 : 000D8000-000D8FFF (864kB-868kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 1 : 000D9000-000D9FFF (868kB-872kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 2 : 000DA000-000DAFFF (872kB-876kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 3 : 000DB000-000DBFFF (876kB-880kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 4 : 000DC000-000DCFFF (880kB-884kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 5 : 000DD000-000DDFFF (884kB-888kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 6 : 000DE000-000DEFFF (888kB-892kB) UC
MTRR 6 Range 7 : 000DF000-000DFFFF (892kB-896kB) UC
MTRR 7 Range 0 : 000E0000-000E0FFF (896kB-900kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 1 : 000E1000-000E1FFF (900kB-904kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 2 : 000E2000-000E2FFF (904kB-908kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 3 : 000E3000-000E3FFF (908kB-912kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 4 : 000E4000-000E4FFF (912kB-916kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 5 : 000E5000-000E5FFF (916kB-920kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 6 : 000E6000-000E6FFF (920kB-924kB) WB
MTRR 7 Range 7 : 000E7000-000E7FFF (924kB-928kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 0 : 000E8000-000E8FFF (928kB-932kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 1 : 000E9000-000E9FFF (932kB-936kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 2 : 000EA000-000EAFFF (936kB-940kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 3 : 000EB000-000EBFFF (940kB-944kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 4 : 000EC000-000ECFFF (944kB-948kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 5 : 000ED000-000EDFFF (948kB-952kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 6 : 000EE000-000EEFFF (952kB-956kB) WB
MTRR 8 Range 7 : 000EF000-000EFFFF (956kB-960kB) WB
MTRR 9 Range 0 : 000F0000-000F0FFF (960kB-964kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 1 : 000F1000-000F1FFF (964kB-968kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 2 : 000F2000-000F2FFF (968kB-972kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 3 : 000F3000-000F3FFF (972kB-976kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 4 : 000F4000-000F4FFF (976kB-980kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 5 : 000F5000-000F5FFF (980kB-984kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 6 : 000F6000-000F6FFF (984kB-988kB) WP
MTRR 9 Range 7 : 000F7000-000F7FFF (988kB-992kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 0 : 000F8000-000F8FFF (992kB-996kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 1 : 000F9000-000F9FFF (996kB-1000kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 2 : 000FA000-000FAFFF (1000kB-1004kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 3 : 000FB000-000FBFFF (1004kB-1008kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 4 : 000FC000-000FCFFF (1008kB-1012kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 5 : 000FD000-000FDFFF (1012kB-1016kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 6 : 000FE000-000FEFFF (1016kB-1020kB) WP
MTRR 10 Range 7 : 000FF000-000FFFFF (1020kB-1024kB) WP

PAT Settings
PAT 0 : WB
PAT 1 : WC
PAT 2 : UC-
PAT 3 : UC
PAT 4 : WB
PAT 5 : WC
PAT 6 : UC-
PAT 7 : UC

Performance Tips
Tip 210 : Mainboard supports faster CPUs, so the CPU can be upgraded when needed.
Notice 224 : SMBIOS/DMI information may be inaccurate.
Tip 2 : Double-click tip or press Enter while a tip is selected for more information about the tip.
EsTeBaNo is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
Newb Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 29
Default

and thank you for helping me
EsTeBaNo is offline  
Old 03-12-2006, 08:27 PM   #30 (permalink)
Newb Techie
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 29
Default

an update of the ebay web page http://cgi.ebay.com/Nvidia-Geforce-6...QQcmdZViewItem
__________________

EsTeBaNo is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.