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Old 01-29-2009, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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so i know building myself has a lot of advantages... i can get a nice case to expand later, have the enjoyment of doing it myself, i can use better parts, etc. but what are the estimated cost savings of building a machine with a $600 budget for cpu, monitor, keyboard, OS, etc. etc. not a gaming machine, just a general day to day task machine.

vs. say a pre-built dell in that budget? can i get that much better performance?
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Default Re: advice - advantages vs. pre-build with a $600 budget

If you are buying a computer meant solely for general use, then it is generally cheaper to buy prebuilt.
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Default Re: advice - advantages vs. pre-build with a $600 budget

You will get a lot better performance however you will need to take full advantage and overclock the cpu to get noticeable performance difference. If you want a complete computer including keyboard/ monitor/ printer/ dancing midget then it becomes a bit close to call.
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Default Re: advice - advantages vs. pre-build with a $600 budget

without wasting everyone's time, could anyone recommend a build as mentioned in the OP of which I could compare to a couple of Dell's? im not sure what components to pick at the lower level (im building a higher end machine right now).

i guess there are already a few budget builds floating around... but most don't include the monitor and OS. it would be nice to build a 64 bit system. i guess i also have windows XP, but it's the 32 bit version.
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Here's a build that's $397.89 with shipping (before rebates).

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That comes with a good processor, a great mobo with awesome onboard video, 4gb of fast RAM, 320gb HDD...you're made in the shade. The case isn't the best, but you can't argue with 86 bucks for a decent PSU and a decent case with 35 bucks in mail in rebate.

60 bucks total in mail in rebates.
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Here's a build that's $397.89 with shipping (before rebates).

Newegg.com - Computer Parts, PC Components, Laptop Computers, Digital Cameras and more!
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Newegg.com - OCZ Reaper HPC Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory - Desktop Memory
Newegg.com - Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - Internal Hard Drives
Newegg.com - LG Black 22X (CAV) DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 16X DVD+R DL 22X (CAV) DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 22X DVDR DVD Burner - CD / DVD Burners

That comes with a good processor, a great mobo with awesome onboard video, 4gb of fast RAM, 320gb HDD...you're made in the shade. The case isn't the best, but you can't argue with 86 bucks for a decent PSU and a decent case with 35 bucks in mail in rebate.

60 bucks total in mail in rebates.
cool. well that's a good start. does a low end dell have onboard video standard? i guess i would assume so.

i still need a monitor and OS, ouch. but that leaves me with $200 which may be doable. or i keep XP and get a nice 19+ inch for $200.

would an Intel build be less value in the budget price ranges?
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Dells have crappy onboard video, that mobo I picked out has awesome onboard video. If you were to compare it to a video card, it would probably be about an 8500GT.

With an intel build, you're probably going to have to grab a video card, so it would end up costing more most likely.

You can find a nice 22" monitor for 170 bucks:

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You can even get a 24" monitor for 15 over that budget, 214 a nice acer at staples.
Best Price: Acer X243Wbd 24" Widescreen LCD $215 at Staples.com
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cool. well that's a good start. does a low end dell have onboard video standard? i guess i would assume so.

i still need a monitor and OS, ouch. but that leaves me with $200 which may be doable. or i keep XP and get a nice 19+ inch for $200.

would an Intel build be less value in the budget price ranges?
Low end Dells have onboard video that uses shared memory. I know this because I purchased one for one of my relatives recently. Just buy the video card separately and install it yourself. I bought a $60 video card and plugged it in, and it DOUBLED the video performance of the machine straight away.

If you're getting a widescreen monitor, I'd go for at least a 22" widescreen. A 19" widescreen actually looks smaller than a 19" 4:3 screen because widescreens aren't as tall.

PS Vista works SLOWER than XP unless you have high end components. I'd go for the better monitor rather than the new OS, your EYES will use your monitor everyday. And Vista is buggy. I run Vista Ultimate 32 bit myself.
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Vista is not buggy!! Every revision of windows has been slower then the last if you want it simply for speed get Windows 2000! Stop spreading the lies, they were only true at first release now vista is fine.
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