Nobody said they where. Thanx, they are my favorite band. Even though, their new stuff (Critical Acclaim and Almost Easy) is pretty wierd considering what were used to hearing from them. But then again WB really told them what to do, and now they are being creative going at it on their own. My favorite album will always be Waking the Fallen though. I loved it when Matt screamed. (And im not a big screaming fan either)