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Old 11-08-2005, 07:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I have been noticing that there has been a few thread popping up about how copy [INSERT LATEST GAME TITLE HERE] . And then they normally put in this line up "I am making a back up of the game", which IMHO is a load of bull.

What's your take on this ?
Should we treat them like WaReZ and Software Piracy Threads?
Or Should we help them out?
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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interesting question. I think that SOME of them MIGHT actually be real backups, although for the most part, I think they are full of [insert bad word here]

I used to pirate a lot, but I have a job now so I actually buy things.
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Old 11-08-2005, 07:52 AM   #3 (permalink)
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We should lock them all I like how they all say "I'm just backing up my disk" Ya right !!! How hard is it to take care of a cd ? Jeez i still have disk's from year's ago without any scratche's on them,They are either trying to burn a copy from their friend or 1 they got off the net so screw them
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yeah, I used to be like that. now I just buy games, then make an image on my hard drive so I can run them without the CD. my computer is not the greatest, so the games I buy that it will run are not going to cost that much anyway.
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TF's stand in the past has been to lock or delete those threads. It keeps us from bordering on the legal/illegal question. I'll continue to close and lock, or delete, those as I see them.

I suggest that when you find one that you use the report thread function so a Forum Leader can take care of it. Replying to it does NOT help, especially if one is giving advice on how to accomplish it. So, don't reply to it.

Thanks for the poll and continued interest, and your support of TF's stand. Also, thanks to those that continue to report threads; that is greatly appreciated!

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How hard is it to take care of a cd ?
- CD Wallet
- Don't lend to freinds. Although with the number of games now days where you need a serial number. I might lend some of my games to freinds, but I tell them to find their own serial number.

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Jeez i still have disk's from year's ago without any scratche's on them,They are either trying to burn a copy from their friend or 1 they got off the net so screw them
Out of all the games I have purchase over the years, I think I have only had 2 legit CDs stop working on me.
- UT2k4 Disk 2 (although it worked fine again once I replaced by DVD Drive.
- WoW Disk 1 (got a free replacement from Vindeni when I contacted them about it)

And failing that, you have EB Games $5 1 Year Warranty on Games which protects you from Lazer Rot (or any thing else that does not involved scratches on the disk)
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I think it's "legal" to backup disks, no? IMO, it should be "ok" to instruct people on how to "backup" disks.. Just not to bypass the serial # checks or any other security measures which would violate copyright laws. But, simply making a binary duplicate of a CD should be legal. I guess it's location dependent as well.

I mean, can't TF just say "we are not violating any copyright laws by answering this question"?..
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But, simply making a binary duplicate of a CD should be legal.
if you have an original copy which you paid for, yes.
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Yup. That's what I meant. If it's not "illegal" in the eyes of the law, why would TF be worried about it?.. Obviously [law != TF policy] as there are things like porn which is legal but won't be tolerated on TF. But, that is with a good reason. The presence of children.

What's the reason with regards to "backups"?.. Obviously, some people will lie and say they own the CD when they infact don't. But, from a legal viewpoint, is that really TF's problem?.. After all, as regular members of TF, we are simply showing them how to do something which is "legal" in the eyes of the law. If they misuse it, shouldn't it be there own problem?

Now all those websites that teach you about guns, are they responsible if someone goes and kills someone with the knowledge learnt from them?
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I think those have all been good points, some that I've wondered about in the past (like explaining how to make legal backups). Sometimes it's best to stay away from anything that even appears illegal, as in if a backup is really for legal purposes. Whichever way we go, there must be an assumption that all of those questions are for legal backups.

I don't have a problem with explaining how to legally do what you can legally do (that was a heck of a sentence). The line could be when talking about serials, cracks, internet downloads, etc.

This will be something that the owners and Forum Leaders will also want to discuss and make a clearer decision.

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