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kerriganm 06-16-2005 11:05 AM

Are framed sites completely non-searchable by SEs?
Have they come up with any new techniques, or is this still true?

jinexile 06-16-2005 11:28 AM

I beleive they are spiderable but difficult... its best to design your site with frames because of accessability issues.

kerriganm 06-16-2005 11:58 AM

you do mean without, right? i didn't design the dang framed thing. i'm trying to get the company to ditch the frames, and coming up with evidence of why they should (can't be spidered by SEs, e.g.).

jinexile 06-16-2005 12:05 PM

Err ya without :)

A major reason would be that its hard for blind people to navigate framed sites.

Larry 07-05-2005 10:35 PM

any reason a company might have to USE frames....
I'm positive they can be overcomed....

THERE is NO reason to use frames and true.... frames are not search engine friendly.

kerriganm 07-06-2005 10:31 AM

The main reason I'm hearing here is that the whole page doesn't need to be reloaded when one frame is changed. I can kind of see that. Can anyone offer me arguments to meet that? But the site is bizarre. The company logo has its own frame- no kidding!

daappleby 07-06-2005 10:39 AM

uh changing a website that some one else designed POORLY blows! You can accomplish much the same effect with tables and its quicker. Nested tables are kinda crappy too but better than frames IMO. Just re-design it and show them the improvment.

Larry 07-06-2005 11:57 PM

kerriganm --- that "speed" argument is so old.... something like 1980 :)

a "big" page is a big page, frame or not.

a fast loading site has "zero" to do with frames.
a frame site loads no faster than one without.

kerriganm 07-07-2005 10:46 AM

can you guys call my coworker and tell him what a jerk he is? ;-D

thanks for all your help! now let's see if i can't break some frames!

daappleby 07-07-2005 11:05 AM

sure whats the number? Enjoy re-creating that site. Hey post a link so we can see the now and then let us know when its done so we can see the after :)

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