Ok I took a good look at the way it was setup yesterday I will try to explain this the best way I can. My pc that I configure from is plugged directly into a switch, from that switch it is than plugged into the back of a router with a adapter that goes from rj45 to a serial connection, than that router is connected to two other routers using some sort of serial connection as well. So my assumption was def wrong its not just a cable with two rj45 ends lol. I have a serial connector on one of my pcs it has server 2003 that I just freshly loaded so I will get the cable and go from there. I have some other questions though, once I get everything plugged up is there any cool stuff I can do with server 2003? I use that computer mainly as a server to play videos streaming and host files and etc. I would like to setup a ftp server, and possibly a dns server on there, I heard it can speed up data on a network. I would like to use active directory seeing as a lot of jobs require you to know it but I feel lost. What do you guys suggest? Oh yea and the serial cards are missing on the back of my routers does anyone have a link to some that I can get?