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Old 04-28-2006, 02:48 AM   #1 (permalink)
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As topic, which one is better to make money faster?
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Computer Science vs Computer Engineering is almost a wash, with Comp Eng. having a slight edge in average pay.

Unless you mean Electrical Engineering, which is entirely separate.
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If you want to make money then don't go into IT. Got that?
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Why not?
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If you want to make money then don't go into IT. Got that?
Honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
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Honestly, you have no idea what you are talking about.
Haha, don't ******** me.
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Why not?
Because companies want to get the most for their money. Computers tend to be an area of the market that can easily be sent to 3rd world countries where people will work for MUCH less. Yes, they do the work at a poorer quality but they make up for it in volume. You have to pay a software engineering 50k/year in the US but if you outsource that you can hire an entire five man team in India. They also work harder than Americans because to them getting 10k a year is really GOOD PAY (comparable to having a 50k/year job in the states). India lives at 1/5th the standard of living in the states.

All the numbers prove me correct that the IT/CS market is DEAD in the states.

Low numbers of people attending college for CS
More companies are laying off IT people than hiring.
More H1B applicants are being given to foreigners.

Don't go into IT if you want to make big bucks. Aim for the medical feild.
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You're way off base, chief. I'll give you credit for getting one of your points correct, that IT/CS enrollment is down in universities. I don't know where you got the rest of your information, but I'll provide you with some facts.

The job market for the class of 2006 is as good as it has been in the past three or four years, according to the National Association of Colleges and Employers (NACE) [1]. NACE also reports the national average starting salary for graduating students majoring in computer science this spring to be $50,046 – behind only chemical, electrical, and mechanical engineering.

The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics indicate that there are more IT jobs available today than at the height of the dot-com boom [2]. "The computer systems design and related services industry is expected to experience rapid growth, adding 453,000 jobs between 2004 and 2014."

Lakshmi Narayanan, CEO of Cognizant, says that the trend in outsourcing is nowhere near its peak [3]. However, he does not think outsourcing is a great threat to the U.S. Ultimately, for U.S. companies, “outsourcing develops a larger global market for [their] services”.

Money magazine’s top ranked career in the United States is in software engineering [4]. The magazine reports the average salary of a software engineer to be $80,427 and predicts that the field will grow by 46% in the next 10 years.

There once was a fear that computers would take away the jobs of people. However, computers have been instrumental in creating many new jobs, and I have no reason to believe that that trend will be reversed.

[1] http://money.cnn.com/2006/02/24/pf/c...2006/index.htm

[2] http://www.bls.gov/oco/cg/cgs033.htm

[3] http://www.businessweek.com/technolo...aign_id=search

[4] http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...p50/index.html
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