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Originally posted by raross
This is nonsense. If you have not noticed the IT Market is flooded with people like you and people with 4 year degrees. So the people with 4 year degrees are going to get the jobs over the people without.
This is true only in theory. In practice, things aren't black and white.

Originally posted by raross
Which statement do you disagree with? Because unlike you, I have worked in the IT field. I presume you're still in highschool and have yet a lot to learn.
This seems a bit misleading. Didn't you just finish your freshman year of college?

Originally posted by FrOz3nD
People i think this is going a liiiittle bit out of control . .
dont you agree ?
No.
 
jaeusm said:
This is true only in theory. In practice, things aren't black and white.


This seems a bit misleading. Didn't you just finish your freshman year of college?


No.


I was speaking generally. There will always be someone who has worked in the military in IT, and goes out into the public who will be hired because he has the 10 year experience (with no college education). Or you might know someone, who can help you get a job to get the experience you need to get a "real" IT job. But like I said, I was generally speaking.

I am still in college, yes. But, before I even started college, I tried to get a job with the certifications I had. Now that I have realized this, I have picked a far more specialized area then IT to get my graduate degree in.
 
I have an MCSE on NT4 and an MCSE on Win2k, and they are both next to the most worthless things I've ever put on a resume. In fact, I have considered in the past not even listing them.

I have a college degree in the "code monkey" field. I had to laugh a bit there when you're denegrating software engineering.... Who do you think writes the software that you IT-types stay employed working with?
 
TheHeadFL said:


I have a college degree in the "code monkey" field. I had to laugh a bit there when you're denegrating software engineering.... Who do you think writes the software that you IT-types stay employed working with?

I wouldn't really say that calling a software engineer a code monkey is bad thing at all... They call themselves that all the time...

Believe me, I have plenty of experience with code monkeys. I enjoy the QA field quite a bit.

I didn't mean to degrade the software engineers at all... Its just not an IT job IMO. And thats not saying that the IT field is better or worse... just different... ok? I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.
 
bradybnmci said:
I wouldn't really say that calling a software engineer a code monkey is bad thing at all... They call themselves that all the time...

Believe me, I have plenty of experience with code monkeys. I enjoy the QA field quite a bit.

I didn't mean to degrade the software engineers at all... Its just not an IT job IMO. And thats not saying that the IT field is better or worse... just different... ok? I didn't mean to hurt your feelings.

There are a fair amount of software engineering jobs that are in IT. Personally I would not want to be in one of those positions, but they are there.
 
bradybnmci said:
Like what?

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