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Old 01-28-2013, 04:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Lets talk about Jail Breaking

The term jail braking comes from the Iphone because IOS is based of Unix. In Unix there is something called a jail. I know that jail breaking an Iphone installs cydia and allows you to download apps not approved by apple.

This is all I know about jail breaking

I want to here anything about jail breaking that anyone knows. (that is not common knowledge!)
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jailbreaking essentially is/was used to add features to an iDevice, not just apps. Jailbreaking an iDevice also grants the user root access to it, so you can do pretty much whatever your little heart desires. However, jailbreaking has become less useful as iDevices moved forward, and not all jailbreak features were "healthy" for past iDevices. For example, jailbreaking a 2nd Gen iPod Touch could, if you wanted, give it multi-tasking (it did not receive that in the 4.2.1 firmware update). However, this was really stupid because the 2nd gen touch only had 128MB of onboard RAM, and combined with a 620MHz proessor (which, I might add, was UNDERCLOCKED to 533MHz), the touch just couldn't run multi-tasking efficiently. Wasn't going to happen. In addition, most "features" that jailbreaking added are now in the vanilla firmware of modern and even some older iDevices. Some third party apps that Apple doesn't support are useful, but remember, there is a reason Apple does not support them. Besides, the app store has quite a few apps that do similar things to ones that require jailbreaking. I should also add that contrary to popular belief and the claims of jailbreak developers, there is a slight possibility of bricking your iDevice. You have to really screw up for that to happen, but it's possible.

As for modern devices from Apple, jailbreaking is not terribly useful on the iTouch platforms. There were numerous attempts at jailbreaking the 6th Generation Nano (the small square with the touch screen), but after about April of 2011, all websites that supported it went down, all progress disappeared and it remains nothing more than a fading memory. I still, to this day do not know why this happened, and I can't find an answer anywhere. All I know about that is what I've just told you. Feel free to ask me any questions you have; as even though I am not an "expert" jailbreaking is something I'm quite familiar with and I've played around with it a lot in my life. Plus I've posted a similar thread some time ago and I never got any responses lol
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Lets talk about Jail Breaking

Thanks for the info but that's not relay what I am trying to figure out. I want to get into the core of jail breaking. I want to understand what programs like redsn0w do. I want to explore the vonariblitys that have been used to jailbreak i phones.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:38 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: Lets talk about Jail Breaking

You will have to go to their websites and find that out. While JailBreaking maybe legal, discussions of hacking and cracking software is not permitted on this site. So while we can help a person jailbreak their device, we will not give specifics on it.
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Old 01-29-2013, 09:31 AM   #5 (permalink)
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As of Jan 26th 2013, it is now illegal to jailbreak and unlock your smart phone
Unlocking cellphones becomes illegal Saturday - Technology on NBCNews.com

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Default Re: Lets talk about Jail Breaking

As I understand the situation, it is illegal to unlock your phone in the USA (ie making it usable on other networks) but still legal to jailbreak your phone.

From the article you linked:

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(Note that unlocking is different from "jailbreaking," which opens the phone up for running additional software and remains legal, although it can be risky, for smartphones.)
Not an issue for my region but interesting nevertheless.
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Old 01-29-2013, 10:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
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yes...Only in the U.S.
can you unlock a major carriers ( Verizon, ATT, Sprint...ect.) phone without jailbreaking it?
I have heard rumor that if you get a phone from a major carrier and at the end of your contract, that they could unlock your phone upon request, depending on the carrier
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As I understand the situation, it is illegal to unlock your phone in the USA (ie making it usable on other networks) but still legal to jailbreak your phone.

From the article you linked:



Not an issue for my region but interesting nevertheless.
This is the correct interpretation.

Unlocking = illegal.
Rooting / Jailbreaking = legal (however, tablets are not covered under this, only smartphones, so technically rooting/jailbreaking your tablet is still illegal... go figure on that one).
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How will one open their iPhone if it is illegal to "swipe to unlock"

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How will one open their iPhone if it is illegal to "swipe to unlock"

/sarcasm


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