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Old 05-05-2011, 10:15 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Microsoft has launched a new ‘PC vs. Mac’ site, and this one encourages potential Canadian Mac buyers to ‘do the math’ before buying.

The idea is that you compare the price of Mac systems to ‘corresponding’ Windows-based systems (I can’t add enough quotes around ‘corresponding’ so I won’t try, but rest assured that these systems have been carefully chosen) and end up being awed by the savings you could make by choosing Windows over Mac (and then you spend the savings on a vacation).

Along with price, the potential Mac buyer is encouraged to compare other specs, such as screen size, processor, RAM, battery life, and color options (seriously, I’m not kidding, although most of the choices here seem to be silver or black). Beneath each of the Windows systems Microsoft has a convenient ‘Buy Now’ button for you to use.

This is an interesting idea, but the problem is that, as with all such comparisons, they can backfire depending on the potential buyer’s need. For example, if you’re looking for a portable and battery life is important to you, then looking at this comparison, you’d go for the 13-inch MacBook.

Microsoft should just become an Apple affiliate and put a ‘Buy Now’ button underneath the Mac systems too.

I’m also going to pull Microsoft up on a little trick the company tried to get past me - one of the comparison criteria is ‘Security Protection.’ Under Mac systems is says ‘Purchased Separately’ whereas for Windows systems there’s a ‘Download for free’ link. While it’s true that Mac doesn’t offer free security software for the Mac, there are free options available.



So, go on, do the math. Which system would you choose?

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Even factoring business class systems that can top the Macbook Pro on build quality and battery life you will still spend less on a PC in most cases.

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MS should have included the ThinkPad X220, It's got better battery life than any of Apple's 13" systems while still weighing less than the MBP 13. Not to mention it crushes the Macbook and Macbook Air from a performance standpoint and also offers an IPS screen unlike all of Apple's laptops.
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I thought as much. Aren't they basing this off older models?
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I could have gotten a faster laptop for a lower price but compared to my MBP it would have been flimsy plastic, there wouldn't have been a glass panel over the LCD, the DC jack would probably break after a while (I've had bad luck with laptop power supply's and DC jacks, and the trackpad would have been less than half the size and wouldn't have had the gestures (two finger scrolling, two finger right click, swipe, pinch etc.) that MacBook's glass trackpad has. For me it wasn't all about specs when I bought my laptop, I wanted something that I knew was good quality, would last a long time, and had a big trackpad.
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^Exactly.
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I could have gotten a faster laptop for a lower price but compared to my MBP it would have been flimsy plastic, there wouldn't have been a glass panel over the LCD, the DC jack would probably break after a while (I've had bad luck with laptop power supply's and DC jacks, and the trackpad would have been less than half the size and wouldn't have had the gestures (two finger scrolling, two finger right click, swipe, pinch etc.) that MacBook's glass trackpad has. For me it wasn't all about specs when I bought my laptop, I wanted something that I knew was good quality, would last a long time, and had a big trackpad.
Multitouch trackpads are a common feature nowadays. My ~$300 netbook from two years ago had one, and my current laptop (~$700) has one too. Everything else you said is mostly correct, though (the 'flimsy plastic' entirely depends on what laptop you're comparing).
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Microsoft does not seem to understand something, for a lot of people out there, especially the wealthy upper-middle class fashion consious, they want a nice looking product. Very few people would argue that apple make the best looking products. And what do they find at the top of the list when they want a top end, fashionable and good looking laptop, a MacBook. Apple's brand awareness and public opinion is something other tech companies could only ever dream of right now.

I'm sure if the macbook looked like your typical asus laptop it wouldn't sell for ****.
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Very true, though I'm weird and think that (visually) clunky ThinkPads look nicer than most Apple products Also, first iPad looks rubbish, though I really like the look of the iPad 2.
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Multitouch trackpads are a common feature nowadays. My ~$300 netbook from two years ago had one, and my current laptop (~$700) has one too. Everything else you said is mostly correct, though (the 'flimsy plastic' entirely depends on what laptop you're comparing).
My Dad's HP laptop has two finger scrolling but it's not nearly as smooth/fluid as it is on my MPB. The trackpad is also less than half of what mine is and you can't right/left click anywhere. I think two finger scrolling is the most he can do while I can do 2, 3, 4, 5 (up to 11) finger gestures without any issues.
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Very true, though I'm weird and think that (visually) clunky ThinkPads look nicer than most Apple products Also, first iPad looks rubbish, though I really like the look of the iPad 2.
Well i am all for rough industrial designs too. But i also like really sleek perfectly machined stuff like apple products. First ipad looked okay, second ipad is indeed better. First thing people do when they pick my ipad2 up is comment on the thinness, and then when they put it back facing down, i give them pure evils and fill with anger. I only ever put my ipad screendown (with the smartcover covering the glass, obviously). I can't stand the idea of a scratched metal back. Infact i think i'm a bit too obsessive and protective.. i sit down and clean the thing with aluminum/glass cleaner every day.. i really hate anything expensive i own looking dirty.
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