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Old 07-18-2011, 09:01 PM   #11 (permalink)
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PS3 processor outperformed every processor on the market, cheaply, hence the reason people looked at the PS3 to create small farms for folding.... Sigh, ignorance, nothing but the people here anymore.
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A quick Google for benchmarks disagrees with you (and yes, that's specifically-written benchmarks, not generic ones which would run rubbish on a specialised processor).
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The only REAL advantage that a console has over a PC is the same one that Apple has, and that is that the hardware is specific and static and that the programs/games are written to run on EXACTLY that hardware alone. There are no variables involved, no consideration for a console that is running out-of-date stuff or is under-powered. Game designers and programmers know exactly what they have to work with.

Not only that, but the programming language itself is highly optimized for the specific hardware setup of the particular console. This is even more narrow than what Apple puts out with their OS to work on just the hardware as each release of the Apple OS must still bridge a couple of generations of Apple computers which run a gamut (albeit a small one) of different configurations. The Xbox360 or PS3 only comes in one, count it, ONE configuration outside of hard drive size.

As c0rr0sive said, though, a TV is much more forgiving than a computer monitor. A console can take graphical shortcuts that a PC game can't.
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Old 07-19-2011, 03:10 AM   #14 (permalink)
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A quick Google for benchmarks disagrees with you (and yes, that's specifically-written benchmarks, not generic ones which would run rubbish on a specialised processor).
What benches are you looking at? When the PS3 was released the most cores a desktop user had was 2 compared to the 7 in the IBM Corecell. The 360 had 3 3.2ghz cores and predated the first C2D chips (those little Conroes everyone was talking about in 06). When the PS3 was released it had a core comparable to a 7900 chip and the 360 comparable to an X1900 chip. That was current gen of GPUs when these consoles where released. So yea, when these consoles where released they where matching PC power AND last time I checked both consoles output 1080p with a mild form of AA 5/6 years later still making people happy. Now considering when these new consoles will be released (bout 4 years from now) computers and consoles alike could easily have the power to render Avatar. Think about how far we have come in the past 4 years. When the last consoles where released we PC users where still sitting on dual cores while the consoles had more cores at a higher stock frequency than us. Now we are sitting on 4/6 cores with 8 core chips waiting to be released. Think about the HUGE differences in processing power compared to the 580 and the 7900GTX. You absolutely cannot sit here and say that next gen consoles wont have the potential.
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There hasn't been a console made that outperformed the PC I had when it was released, none, zero, nada.
I am actually surprised your still running 480s.. lol Aren't those a little old school for you slay?

Either way, I don't believe this... I also hope to go its not called a 720. I read this article in OXM and the article is 100% speculation as there are more then a couple people putting input on the next gen xbox.
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Sorry but the PS3 did have an advantage over PC's when it was released. BLURAY. Not a single PC back then had a BD Drive cause they were all used for manufacturing of the PS3. Since it was a Sony exclusive product back then and what lasers werent in use in the PS3 were put to use in BD Players that were sent to market. There was no laser or drive released that was in a PC at that time.

So Yes, the PS3 did have something that no PC had in it at that time. The XBOX 360 also had the HD-DVD drive add on. Which again was something that no PC had. So technically both had something that no PC had and it was far more advanced than anything used on a PC at that time. No PC at that time could play either format or use those disks.

So to say that it is garbage that no console has ever beat a PC is not true. Maybe not when it comes to gaming graphics, but there are other aspects that it did beat PC's in. As I have shown with the BD and HD-DVD example.
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I don't quite understand what the last sentence was for but I do kinda agree with you; PS3 had an advantage since (which it still has over 360) with the Blu-Rays, since it can hold much higher-resolution textures thanks to more than triple the space available.
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Except the PS3's hardware can't utilize that due to hardware restrictions lol.
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My last comment was directed toward a few people that are dead set saying that PC's always out rank consoles in features when one is released. Namely Thomas and Slay who say that no console ever beat out a PC. I just felt that such statements are not completely correct since they do have other features, other than graphics, that they do beat PC's on. People have to remember that the PS3 is not just a gaming console. It does so much more than just play games. Just like the XBOX. Every system has an advantage to begin with, but that is then ported to everything else done.
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You also have to take into account the price of hardware when the console was released. Back in late 2005 when the 360 was released there was hardware that outperformed what was in the 360 but for $400USD you could buy an Xbox 360, if you wanted a PC that with similar specs you would be paying a lot more than $400.
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