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Old 10-15-2013, 04:08 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize I won the lotto and can afford enterprise class SSDs 2TB and above. Consumer SSDs are not cheap enough nor reliable enough to store data on for 5+ years. I might consider it when I can buy a 2TB SSD for less than 200 bucks. Until then, HDD for data storage and will probably last a long time.
I'm pretty sure SSD's have gotten a lot more reliable these days, with a lot of them being better than mechanicals.
I read somewhere that Plextor have about 0.5% failure rates per year (with 5 year warranties), and Intel have about 0.1% failure rates.
A lot of the Sandforce based drives have had reliability problems (particularly some of OCZ's drives).

But still, the cost per GB is their biggest drawback.
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I'm pretty sure SSD's have gotten a lot more reliable these days, with a lot of them being better than mechanicals.
I read somewhere that Plextor have about 0.5% failure rates per year (with 5 year warranties), and Intel have about 0.1% failure rates.
A lot of the Sandforce based drives have had reliability problems (particularly some of OCZ's drives).

But still, the cost per GB is their biggest drawback.
Call me oldschool, but they don't have the years behind them.
I won't even get into how failure rate reports aren't exactly evidence to reliability.

Either way like I said before, I'm not arguing that SSDs have or have not gotten more reliable. I mean, AFAIK my first gen I traded off is still running today. The point still remains, for a consumer level storage solution there is no reason for an SSD, and I simply do not trust flash to hold precious data long term.
Now if I was made of money, I would probably have a 2TB SSD just because, but otherwise for the same money I would rather have an 8 bay NAS and fill it with 4TB drives for long term storage, and much much more space.
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Either way like I said before, I'm not arguing that SSDs have or have not gotten more reliable. I mean, AFAIK my first gen I traded off is still running today. The point still remains, for a consumer level storage solution there is no reason for an SSD, and I simply do not trust flash to hold precious data long term.
The biggest reason to use SSD's is the speed. Not just for transferring gigabytes of files around, but also for general system responsiveness. Mechanical drives are probably one of the biggest bottlenecks left for most users these days. Basic CPU's and GPU's are more than fast enough for most people's daily tasks, and RAM is cheap enough for most manufacturers to put in 4-8GB.

Yes, SSD's still can and do fail. And so do mechanicals. I think the failure rates for most SSD's are at the very least quite acceptable these days; but anyone who needs to make sure their data doesn't get lost should always be making backups anyway (doesn't matter whether they use SSD's or mechanicals).
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The biggest reason to use SSD's is the speed. Not just for transferring gigabytes of files around, but also for general system responsiveness. Mechanical drives are probably one of the biggest bottlenecks left for most users these days. Basic CPU's and GPU's are more than fast enough for most people's daily tasks, and RAM is cheap enough for most manufacturers to put in 4-8GB.

Yes, SSD's still can and do fail. And so do mechanicals. I think the failure rates for most SSD's are at the very least quite acceptable these days; but anyone who needs to make sure their data doesn't get lost should always be making backups anyway (doesn't matter whether they use SSD's or mechanicals).
Yea, I've been saying the same thing for years now, but for raw storage on a consumer level there still isn't an actual need for that speed. I don't really install games faster from my SSD to my SSD over my HDD to my SSD. I don't have issues streaming TV or movies from a storage drive (even over the network), and 90% of the games on the market today still don't take much advantage of having an SSD. That being said, keeping your storage on a regular (granted newer and faster) HDD is still a very viable option.
I mean, I had (recently reinstalled Windows) a VM of Windows 8.1 completely in RAMDisk and so far it was no different realistically than having it native on my SSD. Now, there are factors that probably bog the potential performance, but I've even used a PCI-E SSD with 100k+ IOPS with little to no difference in real world performance.

That's why my argument will stand for a while that although I absolutely love SSDs, in the consumer market there really isn't a need for them to hold our regular storage. Having a 2TB SSD to sit there and hold your Valve folder and porn is just an epeen novelty thing IMO.
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Actually, the larger the ssd drive, the more the reliability it has. The data gets spread out more over a larger drive area and it uses less of it's memory, So a 2tb drive should out last a 60 gb drive considerably
I still have my 90gb drive and I've never had an issue with it (Almost 3 yrs now). It's also housed in a 3.5" frame from OCZ
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Wouldn't necessarily work in that favor for someody like myself. If I had a 2TB SSD I would have it loaded with things like my game ISOs or mods folder that would benefit from the transfer speeds. I would then need to setup a faster network setup for people to take advantage of it.
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ah yes!! Some desire a need for speed, Not us of course, but they are out there and will buy....which in turn increases the supply and lowers prices
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Like anything else PC. Did you see the DIMM slot SSD posted in new tech? I'm highly excited about that.
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