i did some research and found out this:
you are supposed to be able to burn recorded tv straight through mce but not all of the OEMs include the neccesary programs, i bought from cyperpower, who, to my understanding, did not include the feature which is sonic encoder. if it came with it i would have the option to burn video dvds, now i can just do data.
i dont think i can buy it and install it, but if anyone knows were i can or can send me the files let me know.
for files over 4.7 i think i still need a decoder no matter what.
since i dont think i can get sonic encoder, even though that is the most ideal i think i will just buy nero