NewCents05 said:
yea but that has a pretty thick surrounding. ok i dont really care about how the bass sounds
i want it to vibrate the car basically so i think the eclipse would be the best bet for that. the alpine or jbl probably sounds better but the eclipse looks more powerful.
LOL now that's funny. their spiders always separate from the voice coil (it's hard to glue aluminium to stuff. I have personally repaired at least 12 eclipse speakers with this problem). they also make funny metallic noise due to them being aluminium. if you send too much power to them they will dent and be forever damage (when this effect happen to paper cone, they will dent for a millisecond and then immediately return to their regular paper form)
putting all of that aside. they won't produce a third of the sound that the jbl's can. for one they only work for small seal enclosures and they don't handle power well. they also have a progresive spider. you are better off using the alpines. I just sold my cousin a pair of eclipse 12 for 100 bucks even though they were worth way more than that (they retail for like 350 bucks a piece). I just didn't want him coming back complaining about them.
those eclipse are just for show, not performance
this is what I was talking about earlier. there are a lot of speaker looking powerful these day, but that don't mean anything. it's the technology that into them. I am audio expert. just trust me when I say that you won't find a more powerful speaker than those jbl.t he aura that's I mention before and maybe some digital design speakers can hang with them, but that it. the phoenix gold stoker were as loud, maybe louder, but they sound horrible.
my friend have some autobahn immortals that weigh almost 100 apiece and they look like the most powerful speakeres that you have ever seen, but they are not as loud as the jbl. over the 10 yearts that I had those 15's I would alway buy the latest great speakers that would come out, Because I would alway get bored with the jbl because I had them too long. anyway I would alway take those speeaker back to the store as they couldn't approach the sound level limit of the jbl.