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Old 02-09-2009, 03:25 AM   #1641 (permalink)
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TasteGW have you heard about the Heka chips?

Apparently there is the X3 720 (Black Edition) which clocks pretty well. Which is fine, but the X4 920 is like $40 more expensive. Which will clock about as high and its got an extra core.

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That would be a great upgrade for some one like Vern. The 720 is about $150 from what I've heard.
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That's a bit ambitious expecially seeing as Superpi only uses a single core.

Plus at 3.78ghz and 4-4-4-12 timings I only got 13.515s

Only passed below 13s at 3.95ghz.
I think you're forgetting that Wolfdales/Yorkfields are significantly faster clock for clock compared to Conroes/Kentsfields
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:46 AM   #1643 (permalink)
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TasteGW have you heard about the Heka chips?

Apparently there is the X3 720 (Black Edition) which clocks pretty well. Which is fine, but the X4 920 is like $40 more expensive. Which will clock about as high and its got an extra core.

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That would be a great upgrade for some one like Vern. The 720 is about $150 from what I've heard.
That sounds like a worthy upgrade for me... but I can't run chips above 95w TDP.. (I really should have spent the extra $10for the M2+ HP which supports all TDP's)

I might consider the X3 in the future, but I got me a X2 5000+ that'll keep me happy for a while

EDIT: I'm really thinking about why the Deneb would have a lot more potential if it had more cache (like the Q9450)...

I mean it beats the q9400, but that's only with the less cache in the q9400 as opposed to the q9450.... I think AMD should consider putting more L2/L3 cache in its future platforms for it to be truly more aggressive
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I might consider the X3 in the future, but I got me a X2 5000+ that'll keep me happy for a while
Brisbane? Vern the X3 720 is a 95 watt chip so it should work. But a brisbane is not a worth while upgrade.
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Brisbane? Vern the X3 720 is a 95 watt chip so it should work. But a brisbane is not a worth while upgrade.
He's getting it from Trotter. :P It's not like he's buying it off newegg.
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vern an L2 cache increase wouldnt do anything for deneb. the L3 cache is only 2mb smaller than a nehalem.
the IMC eliminates the need for a large L2 cache like the 9450 has. which is why nehalem has a smaller L2 cache than deneb (4 x 256 nehalem vs 4 x 512 for deneb).
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:18 PM   #1647 (permalink)
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Old 02-09-2009, 01:20 PM   #1648 (permalink)
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vern an L2 cache increase wouldnt do anything for deneb. the L3 cache is only 2mb smaller than a nehalem.
the IMC eliminates the need for a large L2 cache like the 9450 has. which is why nehalem has a smaller L2 cache than deneb (4 x 256 nehalem vs 4 x 512 for deneb).

I think it would.

The previous phenoms were only 2mb cache and 65nm...going down to 45nm and adding the extra cache is what made the chips so much faster.
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eh? going down to 45nm made it faster?
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Yeah, because it allowed them to increase the ipc and less heat = higher headroom for overclocking.
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