Nubius
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Nubius' "Unofficial" Bigwater Review
Aright some of you have known that I ordered the bigwater a week or so ago. Well, as I pretty much always expect the machine didn't boot first try. I had swapped one particular RAM stick from slot 1 to 2 so I figured that stick just needed to be resat......nope..still error beep...I reseat the video card and remove that one stick...still beep.... finally I found out it was the damn RAM stick in the 3rd slot that needed to be resat..mind you I didn't even touch that one...blah..anyway it's up and running.
Couple things to note:
I purchased a seperate radiator for a total of 2 so this isn't the stock bigwater per se. I also constructed the Rads so that they fit together and put a 3rd 120mm fan on the front.
Here's basically what my radiators look like:
http://www.27thavenue.com/images/radiators.jpg
Mind you that is a pic before I added the 3rd 120mm fan, so just picture another one up there at the front.
I also removed my rear exhaust fan and that's where my hoses and power cords go through (althought thermaltake does provide a PCI slot thing for the tubes to safely pass through)
My side panel is also off.
So I have my rear exhaust gone, the side panel off, and a little home made type radiator set up.
Now I know you're all wanting the goods so here it is.
Air Setup:
35w 2400+ XP-M OC'd to 2.5GHz 200x12 - 1.875 Vcore
32C Idle - 41C Full Load
Bigwater Setup:
35w 2400+ XP-M OC'd to 2.5GHz 200x12 - 1.875 Vcore
31C Idle - 44C Load
Needless to say I'm a bit disappointed. Not only is stock bigwater supposed to be cooler than air, but I've also added a 2nd radiator with two more fans.
The AS5 needs time to settle in, and the things like no rear exhaust, and the fact that with 2 120mm's pushing and only one pulling, leads me to believe I either need to move one 120mm to the back to pull, or get a 4th one...which I'll probably do, and make that pull so the air can move freely instead of getting stuck in the middle like I think it's doing.
So there are a couple things to take in such as the AS5, lack of one fan, and the possibility of air not moving through the rad set up like it should.
So there's a few things I can try, but overall I really shouldn't even have to do them. The stock bigwater should give me better temps than air, muchless with an extra rad and an extra fan.
I'll try to get some pics of the setup tomorrow.
The only positive note is that, it is much quiter than my setup with the tornado., even with the tornado down at half power. It's more of a white noise hum than a high pitched whine.
So yeah I'm a bit disappointed as I'm sure most would be One person even said I probably set the bar too high formyself being that it's just a starters kit basically and I say they were right.
Granted this is giving me temps that normally took a solid copper SLK-900A and vantec tornado, plus many case fans....so if you're going from stock cooler, or a case with not that many fans and not the greatest heatsink no doubt you'll see better temps.
However, Mike, has better temps than me with his monsterous Tower heatsink and 2 tornados, but after a while I got tired of one tornado muchless two.
Soo yeah....Don't know what to tell you guys beyond that.
I'm going to get another 120mm, put my rear exhaust back...if I can with the hoses in the way, reverse my front bay fans to intakes instead of exhaust...and give the AS5 time to settle in.
Perhaps it just wants a diff configuration than the air...who knows.
I'll be sure to update this thread with any new 'findings'
T-T-T-T-That's all folks.
- Nubius
Aright some of you have known that I ordered the bigwater a week or so ago. Well, as I pretty much always expect the machine didn't boot first try. I had swapped one particular RAM stick from slot 1 to 2 so I figured that stick just needed to be resat......nope..still error beep...I reseat the video card and remove that one stick...still beep.... finally I found out it was the damn RAM stick in the 3rd slot that needed to be resat..mind you I didn't even touch that one...blah..anyway it's up and running.
Couple things to note:
I purchased a seperate radiator for a total of 2 so this isn't the stock bigwater per se. I also constructed the Rads so that they fit together and put a 3rd 120mm fan on the front.
Here's basically what my radiators look like:
http://www.27thavenue.com/images/radiators.jpg
Mind you that is a pic before I added the 3rd 120mm fan, so just picture another one up there at the front.
I also removed my rear exhaust fan and that's where my hoses and power cords go through (althought thermaltake does provide a PCI slot thing for the tubes to safely pass through)
My side panel is also off.
So I have my rear exhaust gone, the side panel off, and a little home made type radiator set up.
Now I know you're all wanting the goods so here it is.
Air Setup:
35w 2400+ XP-M OC'd to 2.5GHz 200x12 - 1.875 Vcore
32C Idle - 41C Full Load
Bigwater Setup:
35w 2400+ XP-M OC'd to 2.5GHz 200x12 - 1.875 Vcore
31C Idle - 44C Load
Needless to say I'm a bit disappointed. Not only is stock bigwater supposed to be cooler than air, but I've also added a 2nd radiator with two more fans.
The AS5 needs time to settle in, and the things like no rear exhaust, and the fact that with 2 120mm's pushing and only one pulling, leads me to believe I either need to move one 120mm to the back to pull, or get a 4th one...which I'll probably do, and make that pull so the air can move freely instead of getting stuck in the middle like I think it's doing.
So there are a couple things to take in such as the AS5, lack of one fan, and the possibility of air not moving through the rad set up like it should.
So there's a few things I can try, but overall I really shouldn't even have to do them. The stock bigwater should give me better temps than air, muchless with an extra rad and an extra fan.
I'll try to get some pics of the setup tomorrow.
The only positive note is that, it is much quiter than my setup with the tornado., even with the tornado down at half power. It's more of a white noise hum than a high pitched whine.
So yeah I'm a bit disappointed as I'm sure most would be One person even said I probably set the bar too high formyself being that it's just a starters kit basically and I say they were right.
Granted this is giving me temps that normally took a solid copper SLK-900A and vantec tornado, plus many case fans....so if you're going from stock cooler, or a case with not that many fans and not the greatest heatsink no doubt you'll see better temps.
However, Mike, has better temps than me with his monsterous Tower heatsink and 2 tornados, but after a while I got tired of one tornado muchless two.
Soo yeah....Don't know what to tell you guys beyond that.
I'm going to get another 120mm, put my rear exhaust back...if I can with the hoses in the way, reverse my front bay fans to intakes instead of exhaust...and give the AS5 time to settle in.
Perhaps it just wants a diff configuration than the air...who knows.
I'll be sure to update this thread with any new 'findings'
T-T-T-T-That's all folks.
- Nubius