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Old 06-06-2005, 05:02 PM   #1 (permalink)
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During the summer, I'm going to be building a pc. The problem is I'm on a 1500 budget and that includes future upgrades. So in reality, if I want to set aside 400 for future upgrades, I have a 1,100 Budget. I did some research, and I figured out generally what parts I will buy. The main problem is the power supply. Someone help me out here. Also make suggestions to my build please. Take in mind that the most intensive game I will be playing is World of Warcraft, so I don't need a top of the line Graphics card. Also, I'm not looking to OC like crazy, so I have no need for the 64 3200+.
Case
Update MAXTOP Signature CSX-147K2F NO PS Gray Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16811150017

Mobo
DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16813136152

Video card
SAPPHIRE 100110 Radeon X300SE HyperMemory 256MB 128-bit DDR HyperMemory 64-bit 128MB Onboard VRAM DDR PCI-Express x16
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16814102528

Processor
AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice Integrated into Chip FSB Socket 939
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16819103537

Ram
Update TwinMOS 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model TMII400/1GB
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16820218062

Harddrive
SAMSUNG SpinPoint P Series 160GB 7200 RPM IDE Ultra ATA133
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16822152014

Optical Drive
NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3520A
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16827152035

Heatsink/fan
THERMALTAKE VENUS 12 80mm Ball Cooling Fan
http://www.newegg.com/product/produc...82E16835106038

So basically, I need advice for a power supply. Keep in mind that these are not all the components. OS+Monitor+Keyboard/mouse still needs to be included.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:40 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Get a sata hdd, because, if you wanted to get another one, than you can put it in RAID 0, and with sata, this gives a very noticable performance increase when loading things. Seagate and western digital are the best manufacturers.


For the power supply, Thermaltake, Antec, OCZ are the main really good ones. Remember to make sure that it is a 24pin powersupply, and not a 20 pin one.

I really recomend not getting that graphics card. The 6600gt would really be worth the investment. WOW would have to be played on low settings, and future games, will barely play. If you wait a bit, the new GPU's are coming out, so the prices will drop a nice amount, so you could pick up a better card cheaply.


Also, I would put that money towards the PC now, as you would end up paying more on the upgrades (but then again, that would be enough (hopefully) for the new X900 series, and 7800.
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How do I know if a power supply is 24 pin as opposed to 20 pin? New egg doesn't say anything there.
Also, the system requirements for wow is extermely low. A 6600 gt would be overkill for wow, and i'm not looking to play games that are graphics intensive as doom3. When I do plan on playing more graphics intensive games, I will buy a better video card.
As for raid 0, I know about the benefits of striping, but I don't think that getting 2 hard drives is worth it, especially since I have a 300 gb external hard drive.
Also, I was wondering to what extent the video card could be overclocked. Any suggestions for a heatsink/fan for the video card?
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Also, a nother question. What are the benefits of more pipelines? Is having more pipelines better than having a higher clock speed on the core/memory of the video card?
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think of pipelines like a highway.....what would you rather travel on.....a highway with 2 lanes and 10,000 cars or a highway with 20 lanes and 10,000 cars......more pipelines = more information and bandwidth to go through.
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For that board, be SURE to get a QUALITY minimum 480W PSU with native 24 pin connector (no bullcrap 20-24 pin adapters allowed). This is the MINIMUM requirements for this board, it is definitely a power hog, and I've seen too many people who have problems with it because they went cheap with the PSU.
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I know i need a quality psu with a 24 pin connector. That is why I posted this. Any suggestions that won't break my bank?
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Is this power supply compatible with my Mobo? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817153007
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:38 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Not too sure about the Thermaltake either way. On the DFI boards, the Fortron Blue 500W is regularly recommended as a budget PSU. I've got the Enermax 485W Noisetaker (P495VE SFMA or something like that) on my Ultra-D with zero problems. Voltages are running within 2.3% or less, so it's doing well for me.

P.S. Are you planning on doing any overclocking?
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Yes I plan on overclocking.
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