yeah i saw that one last night, and i tried to loosen up some money in my budget, but i would have to loosen up an extra 75 bucks, and i just couldn't find anywhere to take it a way from. What if i went with ddr2 675 with 4-4-4-12 timings, i can afford that. I don't want to overclock my conroe to the absolute farthest point i can get it to, i just wanna overclock it to an easy point where i can get more than what i payed for. If i can push it to around 2.5 ghz im good.