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Old 03-17-2005, 01:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Building a system around x800xt agp part 2

Well thanks to many of you in this forum I have decided on the following parts to accomidate my new AT AIW X800 XT 256MB AGP vid card. I wanted to keep this discussion fresh and I have a few more questions to ask of you. Within the past 2 days I already feel I have a better understanding of hardware. Here is how my new comp stands at this time:

Case:
(RAIDMAX Samurai XE Black ATX Mid tower Case)
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...156-174&DEPA=1

Power Supply:
(Thermal Take PurePower W0023 560W)
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProduc...153-015&depa=1

Motherboard:
(Abit Av8-3rd Eye Motherboard Socket 939)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...127-186&depa=1

Processor:
(AMD Athlon 64 3200+ Winchester Core)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...103-500&depa=1

Processor Fan:
(Thermaltake Venus 12)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...106-038&depa=0

Memory:
(Corsair Value Select (Dual Pack) 184 Pin 512MBx2 DDR PC-3200)
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...145-440&depa=1


And there you have it. Please check out all the specs you want and add any advice as far as compatability issues physical dimensions, past experiences with components. I'm looking for a grade.

Also please note that I know the system memory isn't the greatest, but I am trying to cut down on expenses.

Also if any of you know of a decent quality over 500w power supply under or around $80 tell me. I could cut cost there.

And finally I will need a harddrive. I believe that is the last component I will need. Suggestions? SATA vs IDE? Pricing? What would you do at this stage? I need to cut costs. Probably the IDE is what I'm thinking. Links to recommended hard drives? Can't wait to hear from you all!

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Old 03-17-2005, 01:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That looks like a pretty sweet machine you are building. Too bad I missed your last thread....

Anyways, about your hard drvie, I would go with SATA, they dont cost much more than IDE, and they transfer data a little faster. Seagate seems to be the HDD brandname of choice. The size kind of depends on your internet connection speed. If you are on dial up, go with a 40 or80GB. If you are on broadband, go with at least 120GB, even up to 200GB.

Also, make sure whatever HDD you get, that it has 8MB cache and spins at 7200rpm.


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http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...148-040&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...148-039&depa=1
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...148-066&depa=1
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Hi elbatrop. Hey I just recently ran o ver this at newegg. It may be a substitute power supply at a lower price I was looking for:

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduc...182-009&DEPA=0

Can you tell me if that would work with this system elbatrop? I like the fact that it has another blue led in it to really light up that case. Although I did notice that my current ps has two fans and this one just has one. Does that really make a difference since I am not overclocking it? I currently would have two case fans, a fan built in on the vid card, a cooling fan on the processor, and whatever I choose for the power supply. Even if I chose a stock fan with a retail AMD chip and a power supply with only 1 fan at 500w shouldn't I be ok? Please advise.
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500W will definitely be enough. To be honest, I've never heard of Rosewill. I looked at the ratings below on the link, and everyone gave it really good ratings. I think it looks pretty good.

With two case fans, you shouldn't have to worry about the power supply not having two fans itself. You will have enough cooling to keep everything within acceptable temperatures.
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Save 20 bucks and use this power supply. Antec makes really good power supplies and that is more than enough power for your needs.

For an extra 10 bucks, use this this processor instead. As you can tell, it's virtually the same processor. The clock speed is raised 200MHz however and it uses a different core. Since you are not overclocking, a Newcastle core will be sufficent as heat should not be an issue.

This Hard Drive should suit you fine.

And don't forget some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste, it's like 5 bucks and will lower your temperature by a few degrees.
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And don't forget some Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste, it's like 5 bucks and will lower your temperature by a few degrees.
Good call, I forgot to mention that. I didnt even notice that he wasnt using a stock heatsink and fan, haha.

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???? That power supply is $40 more. Although Antec is very respectable, It seems that the Rosewill is good too.
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That power supply is $40 more.
I was referring to his original choice. :P
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Hey alba I found a retail AMD 3200 with winchester core and stock fan. Instead of using venus 12 I will use the stock fan and save $25 +. Is this ok with the specs of the rosewill 500w ps?

This would mean the following:

1.) one fan on ATI AIW x800XT AGP card
2.) two 180mm case fans
3.) one stock processor cooling fan retail AMD
4.) one power supply fan

In total I will have 5 fans. Remember I am not overclocking.

Will I still want the thermal paste?

Hey gaara! LOL Remember my board is for a 939 socket not a 754! LOL. But you gave me the idea to go with the retail version and stock fan to save 25 or more bucks by not buying the venus 12 thermal fan.
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500W is going definitely good enough for your setup.

The paste that comes with the stock heatsink and fan is adequate and will keep your CPU cool.
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If you aren't into overclocking yes the retail is the better choice for you. The fan will cool nicely and since you are getting a Winchester core it will run cool anyway so no worries there, better to save the money.

The power supply should be adaquete.

Since you won't be overclocking much (if any) then you shouldn't worry about getting the arctic silver 5 either. The retail heatsink will come with a thermal pad already on it. So all you have to do is just stick the heatsink onto the processor and you should be good.

And don't worry about that ram, it is plenty good enough for non-overclocking.

Hard drive I would go with SATA just because they are faster and around the same price (plus you don't have those big ugly ribbon cables )
I would get one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...135-106&depa=1
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