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Old 01-10-2005, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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i was looking at the new athlon 64's from amd on newegg and i noticed that there was a big difference in price of two of the same processors and then i noticed one of them was a 90nm chip. The cpu's were both 3500+ you probably know that the 90nm was a winchester core. i was wondering if ,other than overclocking, why these chips are better than the regular newcastle chips.
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well the .09micron requires less voltage, thus producing less heat....which is basically what makes it good for overclocking.

Also I believe newcastle has a tendency to get hot compared to winchester core.
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so you're saying that the winchester core chip has the same speed and power as the newcastle. the only difference is the heat production.
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Correct, if you don't plan on overclocking and aren't worried about your CPU temperature while running stock speeds, the Newcastle core is the better choice, but the Winchester core is a much better core and will be far more energy efficent, achieve high clock speeds, and dissipate less heat all at the same time.

I think a 3500+ Winchester can overclock up to 2.6Ghz without any voltage tweaking.
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If your not worried so much about OC-ing then go for the cheaper of the two. They are both awsome processors.
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No is you arnt overclocking or are, the 90nm are still better the 90nm preforme moew per clock
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No is you arnt overclocking or are, the 90nm are still better the 90nm preforme moew per clock
how come everybody else says they are the same?
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Well I can barely understand what 'MasterJason' is trying to say over there. You should really practice some typing skills there.

I don't know anything about the .09 being any better than the .13 performance wise. I would have to see some graphs to back that up. Smaller transistors, less voltage, and less heat do not = more performance.
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I gotta back Nubius up here, unless the Newcastle is overheated like a baked potatoe, a stock Newcastle will perform exactly the same as it's Wichester counterpart.
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cool, thanks for all the replies.
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