hmm... so you've NEVER had any video... even with the mem, processor and vid card ONLY. How about removing the processor then memory... what happens. So far I'm thinking the vid card is shot. This is happening on both machines, correct? Damn.. this is a weird one. Anyhow, you've got it set to cs, right? What I'm trying to do is get you some sort of video, ANY at all. Try to get you into the bios. Have you checked the MBD jumpers? Check the voltage settings, clear NVRam, etc... You'll have to check you're documentation for these, though. Usually for NVRam clear, its a jumper labled either Restore or Clear... something like that. Set it to that (turn it off, of course), reboot, it'll say something on the screeen *I HOPE!!!), then turn off again and replace to Normal or Default pin settings. Anyhow, so you got no screen with the HDD removed, correct??? Just a beep code?