and about the sayin with nvidia the "cant go wrong with nvidia" well i got a nvidia and it f***ed up my system.... and i've had ATI all my life..... both companies are good and both have strong points and dont be dissin on ATI now. I have a 6600GT and like korky, i get around 80-90fps in CS:S, i cant wait to see wut i get with a conroe and X1900XT! NO FLAME WARS SHOULD BE STARTED FROM WUT I SAID, BOTH COMPANIES ARE GOOD AND HAVE DIFFERENT STRONG POINTS, LIKE INTEL V AMD!