apokalipse said:
I know "anything" is not possible, but that is not what I meant. I meant that we can't predict the future. unless mankind makes some major breakthroughs in Quantum Physics, that won't change.
nothing is 100%, and there is no such thing as perfection. yes, Conroe will probabbly be on top upon release. but that being said, that is also not 100%. if conroe wins, and yes it probabbly will on release, we don't know for how long.
I'm not even going to argue with you any further.
also, I am close to locking this thread
Ok, Apokalipse, you have to listen to me very carefully. Pay attention for a second, alright? AMD has said that the next thing it will bring out will be the K8L revision to the architecture. NOTHING unplanned is going to happen, you got that? When was the last time something happened in the CPU world that we didn't know about atleast 6 months in advance? By the time AM2 comes out, we will have known about it for atleast one year. We learned about Conroe about 9-10 months before it's release. The same thing happened with the Socket 754 and Socket 939 Athlon 64s, we knew about them almost a year before they came out. H3ll, we know Intel's roadmap for the next 4 years!
Those that pay attention will know about these things even before the mainstream crowd catches on. Thats where K8L comes in. THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT AMD IS RELEASING IN THE NEXT ONE AND A HALF YEARS. Now K8L may or may not beat Conroe, like you people have been falsely babbling about Conroe, we know next to nothing about K8L. So I'm not trying to start arguments about "Omg, K8L with be teh pwnzor to Conroe." Take your own advice about there not being any facts, and keep your mouths shut about K8L until you know more.
My point is; AMD isn't going to bring out any magic processors that will suddenly take over the CPU world. You've already admitted, Apokalipse, that Conroe will beat the Athlon 64 quite badly, but weren't sure for how long. Well, now I've told you; One and a Half years.
boomstick666 said:
Bat least i hope AMD wont go bunkrupt and bought by Dell and stuff.
Dell would not buy AMD...Dell is a computer maker, not a processor maker. Its like MonarchComputerSystems buying out Intel...not going to happen. If anything, Intel would buy out AMD. But don't worry, thats not about to happen either, though I cannot see any reason to buy AMD CPUs for the next 2 years except for the IMC.
magouster said:
You like the whole "SET IN STONE" thing, don't you Radience? Much the same type of argument you used in another thread about DX10. I like performance as well, I USED TO RUN INTEL SYSTEMS UNTIL I BOUGHT THIS ONE! I'm not some frustrated little American 16-year-old (no offence intended to others) who reads things on the net, and then conveniantly closes his mind to all further rational and adult discussion. Personally, I wish Conroe falls on its arse with some major recall or something, not cause I'm an AMD fanboy, but just to see you make a fool of yourself.
Apokalipse, I think you can close this thread now, its obviously a waste of bandwidth and time!
You relish in insulting me (like a frustrated 16 year old who has closed his mind to his own fanboyism, I might add) but you have not provided any proof or facts to support your side of the argument. I don't care how old you are, grow up.
nitestick said:
I am unashamedly an AMD fanboy for life but i don't let that get in the way of logic.
nitestick said:
As myself and apokalipse have said repeatedly in various threads none of you can claim to know the future so keep quite.
First of all, its spelled "Quiet." Then, you obviously haven't been paying much attention to your beloved AMD as you should, eh? I hope your read my little shpeel above about K8L, and how magical CPUs don't just pop up out of nowhere.
nitestick said:
I don't mind any of the talk about conroe and its "apparent" advantages.
Oh-My-God, you're STILL stuck on that? Even your buddy Apokalipse has realised the complete dominance that Conroe has over the Athlon 64! How much of a fanboy can you BE?! You've totally closed your mind to everything Conroe. Have you not seen the 2.7GHz Conroe that beats a 3.6Ghz FX-60? APPARENT ADVANTAGES?! Yes, they're as apparent as the nose on your face!
nitestick said:
What i do care about is that hardly a single person on this forum has realised that it still can not be confirmed, nor can any possible advances AMD may add to their manufacturing process between now and conroe's release. talk all you want about conroe but just make sure it is clear that you are not speaking confirmed facts. there are many impressionable new forum members and we don't need people perpetuating Intel's already considerable marketing.
What I DO care about, is that you and your buddy haven't realised that there is nothing AMD can do in less than a month to increase AM2's pathetic DDR2 performance, and still have their processors ready for release.
003 said:
There is no core revision that can make up for such an utter lack of performance.
Indeed.
grogthegreat said:
Yes things can change but in the CPU world, products are planned well in advance.
Thank You.