AM2 to wait or not to wait

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one of the most frequently mentioned topics on the forums at the moment is the up an coming AM2 socket. now i am going to post my opinion as to why it is not worth waiting for

Reasons not to wait:
1. current information suggests that the new memory controller is struggling with DDR2 support and that what has been developed so far only roughly equals current performance if not slightly lower

2. spending a lot of money on the latest technology based on faith is a big gamble, for anyone doubting me google "p4 willamette"

3. pricing will no doubt be higher than equivelant s939 cpu's

4. AM2 is only really a revision of current technology to include DDR2

5. DDR2 latencies are hideous and so far have shown unimpressive performance with the info floating around about AM2

6. why wait for something that could quite possibly be a flop rather than build something on proven technology currently available

7. again on DDR2: the AMD memory controller does not rely heavily on memory bandwidth so i believe that even once the controller has been improved it won't provide a significant performance boost

8. any issues with the cpu's will not be known until after they are released. if anyone can remember the entire shipment of pentium 3's intel managed to make that never worked and had to be recalled and more development done.

Reasons to wait:
1. Even though current benchmarks were disappointing for AM2, I will place a wager saying that the once the rev F chips are actually released, they will in fact beat rev. E's (clock for clock)

2. DDR2 has been progressing and certain chips can already run with fairly tight timings. I also think with AMD in the game, it will put more pressure on manufactures to create tighter timing DDR2 chips.

3. For future upgrade purposes, AMD does plan on scaling new chips higher, and other rev. changes most certainly will add efficiency and performance increases.

4. It is not necessarily only waiting for AM2, but Conroe will be released about the same time. Waiting would allow you to finally see what both chips actually end up doing. (no more guessing, yay!)

DDR2 info:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...ead.php?t=91005
this discusse that apparently tne next gen DDR2 will be CAS 3.
thanks idiotec

i just thought i'd bring this to everyones attention seeing as it is currently a hot topic. constructive posts for either reasons for or against waiting for AM2 are welcomed and if they are valid i'll add them to the list. i just think this needs to be openly discussed because in way too many threads people will say "wait for AM2" without justification. this is mostly my opinion (or the opinion of others) so either way it is not completely impartial so don't take it as fact just think of anything in this thread more as guide lines
 
very well put together nitestick. I agree strongly on points 4 and 7. I smell another s754, but that's just me.

Ryan
 
Nobody's going to bother to flame you, we're already noticed this. On top of the DDR2, remember the 333MHz HTT. May be significant, but I just find it annoying.
 
I think a lot of people that aren't on the bleeding edge of technology will be happy owners of socket 939 systems until socket F. It's nothing but speculations and 1200-some-odd pins, but it'll be another step.

Ryan
 
Just to play devils advocate for a second:

1. Even though current benchmarks were disappointing for AM2, I will place a wager saying that the once the rev F chips are actually released, they will in fact beat rev. E's (clock for clock)

2. DDR2 has been progressing and certain chips can already run with fairly tight timings. I also think with AMD in the game, it will put more pressure on manufactures to create tighter timing DDR2 chips.

3. For future upgrade purposes, AMD does plan on scaling new chips higher, and other rev. changes most certainly will add efficiency and performance increases.

4. It is not necessarily only waiting for AM2, but Conroe will be released about the same time. Waiting would allow you to finally see what both chips actually end up doing. (no more guessing, yay!)
 
I think AM2 is a waste.

1. socket F should be a much more valuable and justifiable upgrade. AM2 has done terrifically terrible on the new benchmarks.

2. 939s will be cheaper when AM2 comes out. This means you might be able to pick your dream CPU for a lot less cash.

3. Why bother with the bugs first round?

I know its all been said before but theres a reason for that! And as for socket F only being for servers...one word.


Opteron... :D Didn't they turn out handy!
 
BennyV04988 said:
And as for socket F only being for servers...one word.


Opteron... :D Didn't they turn out handy!

Yea, nice job sherlock.

Opterons were the EXACT same socket, and the EXACT same processors as Athlon 64s. How many people to you see walking about with Socket 940 Opteron 200s? A different socket, and a different type of processor won't go over as easily. Which is ALSO the reason that Intel's Quad-Core Woodcrest isn't going to become a viable processor for gaming.
 
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