ATI fans always brag about their 3dMark05 scores so much I GET SICK OF IT! For one, 3dMark05 is optimized for ATI. Second, 3dMark05 is the ONLY THING ATI is good at. Third, 3dMark05 isn't a fun game IMO. More power to you if you want to sit and run 3dMark05 all day, but I choose real world games, in which NOTHING can touch Nvidia.