Geez, the number of nvidia fanboys on tech-forums is overwhelming. Whenever anybody posts something here that would give ATI a slight edge, everybody says so confidently that nvidia will top them... "soon". Let's all wait for the 3rd party benchmarks, as I have a strong suspicion that those charts are a load of bull. Notice how no real numbers are used. Even if the X1800XT is slightly better than the 7800GTX, there is not a chance in hell that it is good as ATI makes it out to be, it is only a 16 pipe card after all. It is however a fact that ATI does AA and AF better than nvidia.