killians45
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Okay, I remember having this argument long ago and I agrued for the ideas of thermal expansion. Here is the way it works. You stating:
Heat won't kill it, that's a silly excuse. I've been switching computers on and off for years and I have yet to see one break because of thermal expansion and contraction of the components, because it just DOESN'T happen with modern electronics, e.g. computers.
This is utterly WRONG. It isn't an opinion, it is a standard fact of physics. HOWEVER, modern systems are more robust than older systems. Older systems DID have a HUGE problem with thermal expansion and had a lower heat/ratio/index. Now, on newer systems things like HDD motors and bearings are built to withstand higher temps. Even CPU cores can handle very extreme temps compared to older circuitry. This also explains why there is concern in how much longer we can keep shrinking and making systems faster. Heat index is the main problems, thermal expansion is the other. With proper air flow this is no longer a problem. So, in other words is powering off and on a problem for new systems? VERY doubtful. Was it on older systems? More probable. Does thermal expansion (as said above) just "doesn't happen" with newer electronics. No, they infact DO happen with newer electronics but newer electronics again are more robust and so there is no real worry there.
Sum it up:
Thermal expansion still occurs on newer systems, it just isn't much
of a problem anymore because of cooling, better materials and
engineering. It still happens, though. By the time damage via
expansion would occure it is probably beyond its normal life cycle
anyhow.
Thermal expansion on older systems were a problem. Much like a
sidewalk heating and cooling it eventually cracked.
I leave mine on, however. Reason being, is partially old school habit
and partially because of possible cheap system parts can still be in
a system to cut price and thus cause rapid expansion. Plus, my
I notice very little difference in my power bill.
Heat won't kill it, that's a silly excuse. I've been switching computers on and off for years and I have yet to see one break because of thermal expansion and contraction of the components, because it just DOESN'T happen with modern electronics, e.g. computers.
This is utterly WRONG. It isn't an opinion, it is a standard fact of physics. HOWEVER, modern systems are more robust than older systems. Older systems DID have a HUGE problem with thermal expansion and had a lower heat/ratio/index. Now, on newer systems things like HDD motors and bearings are built to withstand higher temps. Even CPU cores can handle very extreme temps compared to older circuitry. This also explains why there is concern in how much longer we can keep shrinking and making systems faster. Heat index is the main problems, thermal expansion is the other. With proper air flow this is no longer a problem. So, in other words is powering off and on a problem for new systems? VERY doubtful. Was it on older systems? More probable. Does thermal expansion (as said above) just "doesn't happen" with newer electronics. No, they infact DO happen with newer electronics but newer electronics again are more robust and so there is no real worry there.
Sum it up:
Thermal expansion still occurs on newer systems, it just isn't much
of a problem anymore because of cooling, better materials and
engineering. It still happens, though. By the time damage via
expansion would occure it is probably beyond its normal life cycle
anyhow.
Thermal expansion on older systems were a problem. Much like a
sidewalk heating and cooling it eventually cracked.
I leave mine on, however. Reason being, is partially old school habit
and partially because of possible cheap system parts can still be in
a system to cut price and thus cause rapid expansion. Plus, my
I notice very little difference in my power bill.