yea i dont like ati but i will like em aloy once they come out with these sick ships i heard the hl2 exansion is gonna need the r520 to run it and there is a video somewhere and it is absolutely jaw dropping but the new gpus are going to be really i mean really expensive the r520 will prolly be like 800 that a guestamit but yea ati is going to crush nvidea soon but itl be expensive