Despite the current ATI series being considered a "failure" on this forum, they are not considered that among other people. ATI still had nearly half the video card market with this line of cards and actually lost less market share than nvidia I think. Oh well, like I say AMD = Intel and NVIDIA = ATI. None of the companies are truly better than the other which is good because if one of either was to drop out we would be in a monopoly situation which would not be good. I hope the battles just get more intense and these companies continue to churn out great products like they have been doing. Some may say ATI sucks, but I still think they are amazing cards. Like havoc said be thankful for what you have, and not always worrying about having 5 fps less than the guy next door.