Ok, first off, I am in no way trying to say eVGA is a bad brand, but I am saying that is is indeed possible for another brand to be better. For example, eVGA makes a nice PCI-e 6800GT, but so does Leadtek. In my opinion, the one made by Leadtek is better than the one by eVGA, especially for overclocking. The reason for this is because it has a massive all copper heatsink that completely covers not only the GPU, but the RAM and backside as well. It also has dual DVI inputs. Now, it is the only 6800GT that takes up two slots, but it can be overclocked far past ultra speeds, and far past most other 6800GT speeds, including the eVGA one. Leadtek's 6600GT in my opinion is also better than the eVGA 6600GT, because it comes clocked at 550/1120 out of the box. That is a pretty impressive stock overclocking. I know everybody argues that you can easily overclock the eVGA one by yourself, but that voids the warrenty. Flame me if you must, but nothing is going to change the way I feel on this matter.