by little for the money, i meant, i could get more off buying my own computer, for less, they are expensive and the setup i would get cost twice as much...
no not really. the 3800+ is 2.4GHZ stock
all Venices are pretty much guaranteed at least 2.6GHZ, 90% will get about 2.8GHZ or a bit more (talking about stock cooling of course)