Until ATI comes out with a Pixel Shader 3.0 compliant card, there is no war. ATI doesn't make bad stuff, don't get me wrong, but its a little pathetic when you pay up to $700 for an ATI X850XT P.E. that can't even play the lastest games at max settings, all due to the lack of Pixel Shader 3.0. Whats even worse is that these $700 cards will not be able to use HDR in the new "The Lost Coast" mod comming out for HL2. That will be solely for Nvidia 6800/G70 and R520 users. ATI fanboys try to downplay the significance of Pixel Shader 3.0, but this is one of the most significant advancements seen in graphics history IMO. Just look at the comparison screenshots for Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, or watch the Half Life 2 HDR demo...and see what I'm talking about. I do give ATI one thing...in games they do play well, they do well at. They excel in DX8.1 games especially. With this said..thread closed.