ok thanks guys. i did a power search on newegg and only asked for Corsair, OCZ, PQI, and TwinMOS memories and the most I could afford was $180. I really didn't want to spend more than that so this fit right in. I thought the 2-2-2-8 timings were pretty good. I'm not a hardcore gotta-get-every-last-Mhz sort of guy lol. I wanna definitely overclock but not to the point of buying ultra expensive RAM. From what you've said, it will overclock well but isn't the best, which in my opinion is ok for my needs. hopefully when i get it in the mail, you guys can help me with the overclocking. I really don't wanna accidentally cook $175 worth of RAM due to ignorance lol.