ok, just wanted to add a comment about the discussion about Asus at the beginning. i recently bought an Asus K8N-E Deluxe motherboard. First off, it was a pain to install, as they provide the worst technical diagrams i have ever seen of the motherboard. i tryed calling tech support twice and both times they asked what the problem was and that they would "call me back tomorrow" which never happened either time. Also, for some reason, no BIOS version above 1.02 works for my mobo. furthermore, the instant music feature and other "special features" this motherboard contains don't work. Overall, i'll never ever buy Asus again. I paid $175 for the top motherboard on tigerdirect.com and got junk. never again...