Why, dale, do you get so upset when somebody suggests Nvidia? Why do you get so upset because some people like to have the latest technology that will be able to play ALL of today's games magnificantly as well as future games? You have the right to like ATI, but its rediculous that anytime me or PP Mguire say anything about getting a non ATI card, you start bashing our intelligence. I personally find it dumb to pay $600 for a card that doesn't have Pixel Shader 3, which is essential for future games, including future additions to HL2. To show how much ATI has f*cked up this generation of cards, the levels that were once called the "ATI levels" for HL2, will only be available to Nvidia users, all because of HDR and Pixel Shader 3.