Well I didnt want to get into a debate with you, but I guess I must. Time to get back do discounting your points one by one... again.
"<--not when you install OS 9 and OSX one the same computer, i just did it 100 times"
OSX install includes in the installation of a bootable OS9 system folder. So, you get two operating systems, 10.x.x and 9.2.2, when you install OSX. Obviously you did the installation incorrectly. It should work not hundreds of times, but thousands of times, without compromise. Installing retail OSX on 100 computers is also illegal unless you buy multiple licenses, so I suggest you look into that further if you did not buy the multi-license version.
<--i wasnt talking about the first boot, im talking about now, when the students boot up the computer, it randomly switches between OS 9 and OSX
Someone probably was tinkering with the start up disk control panel and selected the OS9 system folder to boot from instead of OSX. That is the only logical explanation.
<--actually Linux is based on a unix shell (bash, bourne, corn, etc), so whats the big diff? O yeah, Linux is FREE!
Whats the big "diff"? A lot of things. They're similar in composition, Linux and UNIX, but they are definitely different. And just because Linux is free does not mean OSX has to be free. Linux crashes a lot and is quite unstable unless you have the knowledge to handle it. OSX, and UNIX as a whole for that matter, is exactly opposite. It rarely crashes and is easy to handle even by the most novice of users (UNIX obviously is not for beginner users). UNIX essentially runs the backbone of the internet and was chosen for that job because of its rock solid stability. The UNIX shell for OSX is used for speed, stability and its attractiveness for both novice users, for its stability and OSX's simplicity, and advanced users who like advanced features OSX contains from its UNIX roots without the UNIX pain.
<-- you forgot about the $600 program called Quark, the main program we use in the graphics department, or is that just "insignificant"
Echem.... Quark?
Quark 6 is fully Mac OSX native. Any graphics professional who uses Quark 5 and wants to use OSX would surely dish out the cash for Quark 6, as improvements beyond OSX nativity were added also.
<-- And cost a bundle more, how many schools/people can afford to replace ALL of their graphics software?
Yes, but why is a school upgrading to OSX is they can't run any of their software on it? Also, people have to make the decision to migrate to OSX. If they are content with OS9 or earlier, fine. I personally know a few people who run OS9 because they can't jump onto OSX yet (Jaguar, version 10.2, is pretty taxing for a slow system) or want to see how OSX matures before taking the plunge.
And also, a school that uses graphics software should be pretty specialized and therefore would have money set aside to deal with things such as software and hardware upgrades. If it is a specific class within the school, they can either just deal with OS9 or try and allocate money to buy the software. Education and bulk license discounts enable some schools to get new software for dirt cheap.
<-- where is a consumer gonna get a g4/g5 processor? i dont see them on ebay, pricewatch, or newegg (etc) And they are at least twice as much, if you can find them, I can only get them, because the school I work for gets them from the manufacturer, most MACS have integrated nics and video cards (2 most commonly replaced items as stated by consumer reports, o wait, i forgot, im uneducated, i cant read consumer reports)
Well, a consumer can order an upgrade from
Sonnett Technologies, which has a range of prices depending on CPU speed and model of computer. You can get a
Sonnett Harmony upgrade card for your Rev. A-D iMac that adds Firewire support and a faster processor (in some cases, this processor could be more than 2x times the clock speed) G4 cards can also be had at a range of clock speeds, but the higher it goes the more money it will take. It is true that some macs have unremovable graphics hardware (like the imac and emac lines) that are not on mobo, but are not replacable. I will give you that. Though, on your other point, don't you want integrated NIC, to free up a PCI slot?
<--cube, imac, emac, or the golfball-looking ones, you cant fit crap in them
Well.... in the cube you can get third party processor, RAM, hard drive, optical drive and video card upgrades- so it looks like you can change quite a bit there. iMacs (flatpanel and CRT) as well as emacs are considered "all in one" computers, and cannot be upgraded beyond RAM. But this is concurrent with PC "all in one" models, like the Gateway Profile series, which also lack any after market upgrade paths besides RAM.
<-- you could build a pc at those speeds for around $1000, easy, and only 3 pcis? Come on, I have 4 pci cards in my pc, plus 2 free expansion slots
At those speeds? Really? Wow, Id like to see you build a dual processor machine with processing power similar to about a 2GHz x86 per chip for under 1000$. Also, what do you need 4 PCI cards for? I can think of only two anyone really would need: Firewire/USB 2.0 add in card (if not on mobo), NIC (if not on mobo). (A PCI WiFi attenna would also do well, but you can buy USb models as well, so I didn't count it.)
<--thatÂ’s even worse than what the MAC teacher told her students, lol
What your teacher probably told you was Apple's OS install base, which rides at around 10% of the world's computers. But your words of "total market share" led me to believe you spoke of market share, so I thought it wise to correct you.
Market share, incase you did not know, if the amount of computers sold by Apple with its OS on it in comparison to how many total computers were sold in the world. So, in other words, Apple sold around 3 to 4 percent of the total computers sold worldwide thay year.
<-- this is total bs, not true at all, I used to sell software at best buy, and we usually didnÂ’t get mac software in for at least a month after it came out for pc
Well, since Best Buy does not sell mac software unless it is on the same disk as is PC counterpart, it does not suprise me one bit that you did not really see it flow in.
<--thatÂ’s 1 game, half life 2 will not be a conj release, nor will doom 3, or the new thief game
I never said any of those games would be. I just said that a few major games do come down the mac pipeline in a conjunction release with their PC counterparts.
]<-- only the full-version updates, if you have an older version, you can just download the updates, before the software even hits the shelves
Im sure Adobe would love to hear you say that you download its major version updates... its $200+ major version updates. Any other upadates, such as bug fixes and minor program revisions, are freely released on the internet. And you can't get any software before it hits shelves unless it is a public beta, demo or online pre-release promotion.
<--which is what most people play
Yes, but Macs are not outright gaming rigs. Most people with macs actually want to do something else with their computers... a thing called "work". Ever heard of it? If people really wanted to hardcore game, they would buy a PC. Everyone who owns a Mac understands this. PC games take time to reach OSX native status, and therefore are released for mac much later than their first introduction. Macs do have games though, do not be mistaken. Medal of Honor: Allied Assualt and Spearhead, Quake 3, and Unreal Tournament 2003, just to name a few.
<-- I was talking about the fact that you can hop on the internet, and go to a place like, I donÂ’t know, KAZAA and download just about anything you want for pc
Well, you can hop on any P2p network and grab mac stuff too. Ever heard of Aquisition or Limewire, running off of the Gnutella P2p network? Or how about Posioned, running off of the Fastrack (AKA Kazaa) network, as well as the GIFT, Open FT and Gnutella network? You can get mac software to your hearts desire and it takes the same patience and luck of the draw as it does with finding PC software on the same services. Also, Posioned, Limewire and Aquisition all do not install that nasty spyware that Kazaa is so famous for.
<-- LOL! We are running all G4s or G5s!!!
Doubtful on the G5. The G5 just shipped less than half a week ago and would take atleast a week to ship anywhere (ground shipping). And if you are running G4's, they're probably really slow as well. Just because you are running a high end chip doesn't mean that you are guarenteed performence akin to its faster clocked brothern. Tell me the specs of your G4 systems and I'll tell you if theyre even supported by Mac OSX.
<-- but that was my point, you can just play bink (ever heard of a typo?) on pcs, no software needed, and with macs, you have to go search for it, no handy little box showing you where it is
Well, if you dont have the program to open it then Im sure opening the little box would be a futile effort. Also, if you want to watch the videos, Im sure you wouldnt be so inconvenienced that you spend all of 3 minutes searching, locating, downloading and opening/configuring the program.
And yes, I have heard of a typo. You have many in your previous posts. Ever head of spell check?
<--imac, emac, flavormac NO FAN AT ALL!! Heat just sits in there
Hmm... thats funny. I certainly recall my old, 333 MHz iMac having a CPU fan and an exhaust fan that whisked heat out of the top. Their compact design does lend to heat better than, say, a tower design, but the heat is well within the specifications of all the parts inside and should do no damage what so ever to the machine. Every mac on the planet, besides the Cube, has a CPU fan. Even their laptops have them and they kick in when the processor is running too toasty.
<--So, 2 processors=slower than one? NO dual processors is used to combine the processing power of 2 individual processors (actually up to 16 processors with windows datacenter) on 1 motherboard to make a processor that essentially ‘adds’ the power of 2 together.
God damn, this is by far the worst mistake you've made. The others were passable if you were a newbie (which you claim is not the case, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt), but this takes the cake.
Dual processors do not combine to equal one processor with double the power! Dual processors, in reality, act like two separate computer cores. Data is split between them, and each compute and churn out the finished data. One processor can be used to run system and apps while the other one takes the load off of the first processor. So, essentially, more work gets done because you have two, independent but coordinated, processors. This all translates into higher speed in real life usage of the OS. Some programs cannot utilize both processors, but almost (Adobe products like photoshop, and Apple video products like Final Cut Pro) high end, as well as middle and low end apps can utilize the two cores for simultanious data crunching.
So, once again: The clock speeds are not added together! Each chip is INDEPENDENT of the other and work in cooperation. The only two technologies that support multiple CPU cores that work as a single processing unit are cell computer chips (AKA, putting multiple cpu cores onto one chip; technology slated for use in the Playstation 3 gaming console) and node super computing, like the Earth simulator, the cureent world's fastest computer, in Japan.
<- i have had a 2.2 ghz p4 for over a year now, and I bought mine over 6 months after they came out.
So, even if your 2.2 GHz Pentium 4 is barely 2 years old, that still does not account for you saying that 4GHz speeds have been around in Xeon processors for "years".
<-- I just have 1 last question for you, are you A+ certified? Because I am. Are you Cisco certified? Because I am. And are you novel certified? Guess what? I’m working on that, but unless you have more certifications than I do and more than 100 credit hours in college, do not consider yourself “more educated” bitch
Well, Mr. King of the world, you asked me 4 questions in that little comeback of yours, not one. Work on that for next time.
So, A+ certified? Thats great because that teaches you how to use and repair WINDOWS computers. It does not, however, make you the end all know all source for hardware information and does not even entitle you to bash Macs, because neither their hardware, nor OS, are even mentioned in your course
material. It is evident that you are not an Apple certified technician, so I won't even bother with that.
Cisco and Novell (typo again, my man. NOVELL, not NOVEL) certified? Grand. I'm proud to say that you can now effectively network computers/troubleshoot networking problems and use and troubleshoot Novell's own Netware product. But, unfortunately for you, these two certifications have no meaning towards anything, and I mean anything, related to this discussion.
So, once again, I have discounted every one of your weak, horribly crafted rebuttles. I never said I was more educated than you nor did I once say that you can't read consumer reports. Whether you can read or not is your concern. In fact, I have much less education that you. I am,in all honesty, a 15 year old high school sophomore. Consider yourself tossed. Bitch.