hey guys thanks for your help. ok i replaced the ps, and i had the same problem. when i put the old ps back in, i found out that if i pressed on the mobo it would try and load windows. i believe i have a ground issue so i am now going to pull the mobo and put paper washers in. the computer actually runs fine at the desktop and on chrome, and the computer has been running fine since i built it around 2 years ago. i have not checked the event logs and i will tonight when i get home. the computer is on the same surge protector that has been on it since i built it. i believe the mobo is on its way out. thx for your help