I been doing some research and according to thread on toms hardware i don't know if your allowed to post links to other forums sites so i dint. well they were disusing between the gtx560 ti and gtx 660ti and they said it was over priced for what it was, I'm trying to get the best bang for my buck i know made wrong purchases b4 and i like to avoid doing so now as i stated before all input is appreciated. well ill check back in a few hrs i need some zzz