600$ Budget Build

[Torey316]

Friend asked me to build him a budget gaming PC for 600 dollars or less.
He doesn't need an OS or an HDD. Anyone got any ideas, hes playing GW2 atm so needs it to be able to run that well.

 

[PP Mguire]

CPU:
Newegg.com - Intel Core i5-3330 Ivy Bridge 3.0GHz (3.2GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2500 BX80637i53330

Motherboard:
Newegg.com - MSI H61M-P31 (G3) LGA 1155 Intel H61 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

RAM:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Desktop Memory Model CMV8GX3M2A1600C11

PSU:
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650 V2 650W ATX12V v2.31/ EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC High Performance Power Supply

Video Card:
Newegg.com - GIGABYTE GV-N560UD-1G GeForce GTX 560 Ti (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Case: (can change, this is a cheap viable option)
Newegg.com - COUGAR Solution Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with 12cm COUGAR TURBINE HYPER-SPIN Bearing Silent Fan and USB 3.0

 

[Torey316]

Just wondering why not go with the amd 8 core series?

 

[PP Mguire]

Simply put, they are slower.

Long explination, for gaming AMD is slower because they have a slower cycle per clock, per core. Essentially AMD's module system is kind of like Intel's Hyper Threading technology, except they do the thread splitting at a hardware level where a single module acts as 2 cores. Because of this single threaded apps run slower on AMD FX processors, but IPC is also slower so raw Ghz doesn't make up for the speed. In other words, there is no need for more than 4 cores for gaming when theoretically the max a game can use today is 4 as it is. Most only use 2.
Considering this is an Ivy Bridge processor it makes it that much faster than the AMD FX line for gaming.

 

[Torey316]

Simply put, they are slower.

Long explination, for gaming AMD is slower because they have a slower cycle per clock, per core. Essentially AMD's module system is kind of like Intel's Hyper Threading technology, except they do the thread splitting at a hardware level where a single module acts as 2 cores. Because of this single threaded apps run slower on AMD FX processors, but IPC is also slower so raw Ghz doesn't make up for the speed. In other words, there is no need for more than 4 cores for gaming when theoretically the max a game can use today is 4 as it is. Most only use 2.
Considering this is an Ivy Bridge processor it makes it that much faster than the AMD FX line for gaming.

Thanks, I set him up with this but with a different case, the one above had only one preinstalled fan found one for 50 bucks with 3 fans in it. front intake rear exaust and top exhause with upgrades for another top exhaust and if he ever wants to put in a bigger i5/i7 he could fit a rad in it for overclocking.

 

[Torey316]

Just wondering wear the i5 3330 stacks up in this chart, it's not listed.
PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

Which would be the best processor to compare it to?

 

[Fat.Clown]

Just wondering wear the i5 3330 stacks up in this chart, it's not listed.
PassMark Intel vs AMD CPU Benchmarks - High End

Which would be the best processor to compare it to?

Intel Core i5-3550S @ 3.00GHz 7,282

cpu mark means **** in games.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/348032/original/CPU Cores.png
intel dual core (sandy bridge) beats amd 8, EIGHT core cpu.

 

[Torey316]

Intel Core i5-3550S @ 3.00GHz 7,282

cpu mark means **** in games.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/348032/original/CPU Cores.png
intel dual core (sandy bridge) beats amd 8, EIGHT core cpu.

Yeah I know just trying to give my friend an idea to where his old CPU stood against his new one. His old was around 1700 score so hes happy.

Thanks btw

 

[Torey316]

Intel Core i5-3550S @ 3.00GHz 7,282

cpu mark means **** in games.

http://media.bestofmicro.com/J/K/348032/original/CPU Cores.png
intel dual core (sandy bridge) beats amd 8, EIGHT core cpu.

Where did you find that specific chart, when I look at toms hardwares charts i dont see anything like that.

 

[PP Mguire]

What is his older CPU? The Ivy Bridge i5 and i7s are the fastest quad core CPUs on the market currently.