Nah from what I've heard the 6800 is pretty stable straight out the box and the only option is Coolbits which has been around since gf2 for OC'ing.......do you know of anything else along those lines for the 6800? I know that yes they do have to iron out issues in cards usually but still, for the most part I've heard a lot a crap about ATI and not too many people having the same issues with the 6800. It seems to be more stable is all I'm saying. But yeah this arguement is futile, won't ever come to a conclusion