um, well I got 8 fans total in my case. Ok, figured it out, it is definately the shitting mounting. Is there any reason why I can just go buy four stainless bolts, put them threw then tighern with a plastic washer on both sides and a nut on the back. Because this 15 dollar mounting brackit costs 2/3 as much as the cooler. now I am down to 24/19 at idle, but the pushpins keep popping out!