Uniqueuponhim
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I'm pretty sure the P45>X38...i seen someone post some reviews about it earlier. Even thought it is 8x-8x vs 16x-16x it still wins. Doesn't matter, cards don't even use the bandwidth PCI-E2.0 provides.... get a good quality P45 board and you're set.
ANYWAY most ddr2/ddr3 boards have issues and aren't to good. RAM seems a bit over priced..I'd get a cheaper 800mhz set. Don't even start "omgomogmm 1066vs800!@!21!!!" because it doesn't matter unless you plan on doing a 500FSB overclock...which you won't be doing with that chip/board.
Well, according to the data I just linked to, the crossfired 4850 actually is throttled by the p45 board with dual 8x. Of course it's only throttled when running very high end games, but the fact is that the motherboard does create a significant bottleneck in new games. The reviews talking about how cards don't even use the full bandwidth at 8x/8x are from 2006 and 2007, and are therefore not really relevant. What is relevant is the data.
The reason I settled on that board was because it was the lowest priced x38 board, and it still had some pretty good reviews - in particular, Reviews - Pro-Clockers! PC Reviews One MegaHertz At A Time
As for the RAM, I see your point. One of the issues with this board was actually that to overclock with it you had to underclock the RAM to 800 anyway.
How about one of these:
OCZ Reaper OCZ2RPR800C44GK 4GB DDR2 2X2GB PC2-6400 DDR2-800 CL 4-4-4-15 Memory Kit - $107.05
OCZ Gold XTC PC2-6400 4GB 2X2GB DDR2-800 CL5-5-5-18 DDR2 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - $78.50
The former is significantly more expensive but seems to be the more popular one. From what I can tell, the heat sink that comes attached makes it more overclockable. Will that make much of a difference with my setup though? Is the extra $30 worth it?
p45 is a better chipset than an x38. x48 would be close to par with the p45. p45 does not bottleneck the pcie at a substantial (ie "measurable") rate unless you are playing insane resolutions (like 2560 x 1600). there are countless reviews stating this, and a few that still cling to the idea that it does, even at like 1280, lol. as far as the "tables speak for themselves", it aint hard for a website to post up some results favoring whichever board they are in support of. at 1920 i will dispute that ther is as much difference as that website claims. and i'd wager nosboost's left nut (LOL) that there aint NO WAY its 17% faster. it may be a little (and i mean at the most 5-10%) faster SOMETIMES, and that depends on what game, resoluton, scene, etc etc etc the list goes on....
Ok, I'm starting to come around. But it's hard to do so without seeing some actual numbers. When I buy that second video card later on, I'd like to be able to use its full potential. Also, if you agree that the x38 is at least faster with these games at very high resolutions then isn't it also possible that it will be faster at lower resolutions with more graphics intensive games in the future? Is there any actual disadvantage to getting the x38 (other than the price)?