The thing is - they ARENT generally decieving. I agree that this time, nvidia have come out on top. The thing is - if you have a high score in 3dmark03, and your FPS are bad in a game like doom 3, then theres obviously somehting weird happening. It cant be a faulty card cause then the 3dmark03 score would be bad. But there has to be a problem because the x800 cards are supposed to be able to play doom 3 at very high FPS on very high settings.