well as i've stated a few times, Nvidia released a calender about a month ago, showing its new lineup to replace the 8 series. The 9800GX2 was to replace the ultra as the flagship enthusiast card, the 9800GTX to replace the current GTS/GTX, and the 9600gt to replace the current 8800GT as the low end card. I dont know why everyone keeps thinking the GTX will be the flagship. Unless Nvidia pulls a 180 and changes their mind on this i think this years lineup wont be as promising as last years in terms of hardware jumps from the previous generation