the thing most of you guys overlook is that most intel motherboards have a limited front side bus speed of 1066 mhz. which limits the processors actual capability. now you can get motherboards with faster front side buses that bring out the processors true power but their pricier. and if i overreacted to people here I am sorry-not my intent to get mad just under a lot of stress lately. like I said I am a fan of the core 2, I just feel that my dual core will outperform one, and I have used a system with an e6600 on it before, and ive used my athlon, and liked them both, I just feel that my athlon outperforms it in most regards. I have seen the 6000+ overclocked up to 3.7 ghz (I watched it done on my friends system) and I have heard of it getting overclocked nearly to 4 ghz, though thats questionable. in the end, when i make a system for someone, I tell them just to get a processor their happy with that suits their needs, cuz the market goes back and forth, one year its AMD makes the best, then intel, then back to AMD. makes for good competition, and competition, makes for better processors in both sides. think about it, if there was no competition, thered be one company making sucky processors and wed never even know cuz we had no competition, instead we got 2 major companies competiting to make the best, and both companies have their sets of good processors.