well right now i just reformatted... im not gonna install any drivers till the morning and then i will see if its the drivers or the actual card... so im gonna check it out in the morning. But also, since both of us started with a 9600 pro then upgraded to a 9800 pro... maybe there was a folder in there from the old card that was messing up the new 9800 pro drivers.. but i uninstalled my 9600 pro drivers but hey.. 1 folder may of been missed. So im gonna wait then i will see. I also put my stock cooling cause i hated the giant 2 cooler. I did not like it at all. Took up too much space and it was a mess. The fan also got screwed up after a day. So im gonna return that too. If its the card.. im thinking about returning it and exchanging it for a 9800xt or a 9600xt. So i will let you guys know in the morning.