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then explain this:Actually you are really wrong
http://www.techist.com/forums/f78/2-0ghz-barcelona-benchmarks-released-153546/
Pure cherry picking.
then explain this:Actually you are really wrong
Which, mind you, didn't include games. One of AMD's strengths.They they tested only few applications in that thread ^^
Still cherry picking.In the techreport review, Xeon outperformed Barcelona in many cases. In one of the benchmarks Xeon 2.0GHz outperformed Barcelona @ 2.5Ghz
How many people use WinRAR, games, POV ray?I posted those benchmarks somewhere in the thread you posted above
I want to ask you how many people use zVisuel 3D Kribi Engine or Server applications Specjbb ?
And how many people use DivX, Itunes, office applications ?
See above.It seems that Intel beats AMD in the applications that most people use
And how many people use DivX, Itunes, office applications ?
It seems that Intel beats AMD in the applications that most people use
I'd like to know how many people upgrade their processors so they can run Word, Excel etc faster...Divx sucks, Itunes I don't use, and define "office applications" you mean word and excel or something?
I'd like to know how many people upgrade their processors so they can run Word, Excel etc faster...
Do people still use those things?people who like to save that extra .0001 seconds out of their busy lives saving documents to their floppy discs.
Divx sucks, Itunes I don't use, and define "office applications" you mean word and excel or something?
I use Winrar constantly, and it seems Barcelona rapes intel at that.
I'd like to know how many people upgrade their processors so they can run Word, Excel etc faster...
Also, Barcelona wins in power consumption, in the review you posted.
How many people use WinRAR, games, POV ray?
or maybe that's a lot of people's genuine opinions.Maybe thats you (or maybe you are just saying that because you hate Intel)
I'm pretty sure more people use WinRAR, games, POV ray, and I'm pretty sure people like using less power.I'm pretty sure that much more people do video editing, and encoding than using zVisuel 3D Kribi Engine or Server applications Specjbb
Don't forget that reviews on Barcelona are only on early revisions, with early BIOS's, and early chipsets.But don't forget that you are comparing Barcelona to the current Xeon
And Barcelona will have increased speeds, too.The upcoming 45nm Xeon is going to perform better than the current Xeon, and they will come out on November 2007
This flies in the face of basically, your whole argument.If t intel takes 50 second to compress a file with winrar, then AMD would take around 40-45 seconds.
I don't think anyone would get a heart attack if he waits for 5 or 10 extra seconds.
with early BIOS's, chipsets, and without much software compiled for K10 yet.Wins against the current 65nm Xeon
Actually, many people do.I don't think many people use POV ray
For WinRaR read the above
Even though you haven't actually seen gaming benchmarks for Barcelona or Agena.Based on my calculations on my previous posts, Barcelona would be just around 3% faster than the current Core 2 in gaming which is negligible
Even though you haven't actually seen gaming benchmarks for Barcelona or Agena, or any proper Penryn benchmarks for that matter.Penryn is going to be around 5-10% faster than current Core 2. So, I think Penryn would beat Barcelona in gaming
and use AM2+, and use non-ECC RAM, and at DDR2-1066 speeds, which it can get more bandwith out of than Core 2 can get out of DDR3Agena is going to have HTT3.0
As opposed to a die shrink, and an instruction set not used by all but maybe a few programs.but how much HTT3.0 is going to improve gaming performance ? The improvement should be at least 10% in gaming to beat Penryn. But this is unlikely to happen
At best, they'll have slightly higher clocks.And don't forget the fact that Penryn processors are going to have higher clocks that their AMD counterparts
But they don't have to get new motherboards. But they can get a new motherboard that does support HTT 3.0.And don't forget the fact that many people is not going to get the advantage of HTT3.0 because their motherboards don't support HTT3.0
People will have to get new motherboards to support 1333 FSB on Intel machines.
Don't forget PCI-E 2.0, aswell.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure it'd be closer to 40 seconds. given that a Xeon has to be clocked at 2.7GHZ to compare to a 2GHZ Barcelona in WinRAR.
Even though you haven't actually seen gaming benchmarks for Barcelona or Agena.
As opposed to a die shrink, and an instruction set not used by all but maybe a few programs.